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Its a nice vert, 409-425, wow. No tach, small block fan shroud, and an automatic.  

https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/d/salem-1964-pontiac-parisienne-custom/7380149037.html

 

 



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The claim is that it's a 425 horse powerglide? That would be a one of none?

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The ad is written masterfully to be misleading, but I see no claim that this is a factory original 409 car. 



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Take the 1 off the price, make price in cdn$ and maybe?



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73SC wrote:

The ad is written masterfully to be misleading, but I see no claim that this is a factory original 409 car. 

 Misleading PLUS. This totally is intended to make people think it's an original car.

 "It is documented that 11 of the vehicles in 64 received the 409, L80 engine option. This one has the dual quad carburetor setup."



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So, for it to get a gold award from POCI, scoring 365/400, would this involve checking numbers etc. to confirm it was an original 409 car?  Or is this award just given based on condition and not correctness of numbers/equipment?

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This sounds like the car I have heard about years ago being built. There was a fellow locally that had a friend ( I thought in Florida, perhaps they both wintered there) building such a car and colours. I got the impression that it was not a numbers build but the way this guy talked about his own car and my CS convertible I could tell his dont know as much as he thought he did about Canadian Pontiacs.

Unfortunately after covid I wont be seeing this other fellow again to as as his car was up for sale and rumour has it his health has deteriorated



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LeeRoy wrote:

Take the 1 off the price, make price in cdn$ and maybe?

 My thought exactly. 



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"The final paint is exactly the same as the original color........Lagoon Aqua Metallic".

 

The repaint colour is NOT Lagoon Aqua. More like Azure Aqua.

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There are many red flags with this car.

 



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MC wrote:

So, for it to get a gold award from POCI, scoring 365/400, would this involve checking numbers etc. to confirm it was an original 409 car?  Or is this award just given based on condition and not correctness of numbers/equipment?

I would guess they hand the award out to "pretty" cars.

Where are the GM docs ... they will tell the true story.



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Furthermore, if I owned this car, I'd be removing some incorrect items and adding others that are correct.



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What are the two trim coloured things on top of the parade top in picture # 7? And is that the correct aerial I should be looking for for our car?

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Those things are speakers I believe.

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Contact the seller, ask for the documents.

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If that was a '63 421 Catalina Swiss Cheese 4 speed car maybe. Not this car but I do wish him all the luck in the world..........

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A report from Vintage Vehicle Services would put that car back into reality pricing in a hurry. It sure has been a useful tool to separate the wheat from the chaff in this country.

I don't think the seller is nuts but anybody who would give him that much without a bit of homework would have to be.

 

 



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Hi... I know the car. I have pictures of it in Florida in 2018. I talked to the owner, in fact the owner approached me because he heard me say to wife "this a Canadian car". He approached me and asked how I knew and I told him it had to be a Canadian car because of the 409.
The car IS super nice. I'm not a Can. Pontiac with my background in Chevs, but the car is very well detailed. He told me he knows where there is another one in Ontario, he knows the owner. He told me this car was basket case when he started, so that tells me there was some "artistic" re-construction.
I only saw the car at night, in a crowded parking lot, never in the daylight. But I can tell you a 100 Pontiac guys would walk by this car and not know its origin, thinking it was "hotrodded" with the 409....

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The owner of this car spent a ton of money on it, especially if it was a basket case. The problem is the US Pontiac guys wont want it for big money as its not a US Pontiac. Its not a 421 Swiss Cheese 63, as was said, so Id still say US$49,000 would be in the ballpark of a selling price. The owner likely has over $100,000 into it if he hired a resto shop to do the work.

An original 1964 Impala, very low mileage, documented from new, 4 speed, 327-300, just sold on hemmings for $39,900 including buyers fees. If it were a 409 car, likely sell for $10-15,000 more. It was not a vert though but it had all original nobody panels. Its a rare x frame that sells for more than $50-60,000.

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64PARCONUK wrote:

What are the two trim coloured things on top of the parade top in picture # 7? And is that the correct aerial I should be looking for for our car?

 Speaker "pods". Not the original aerial.



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Definitely a gorgeous CS. Somewhat interesting improvisation of the end cap replacement just ahead of the passenger side wheel well. Speaking of wheels, I do like the offset which pushes the wheel out to fill the wheel wells. I suspect there is no tach because it is an automatic. I also agree with Don's suggestion that "US$49,000 would be in the ballpark of a selling price." I would be very lucky to get half of this in Canadian funds if I were to think of selling mine. It does cost a fortune to rebuild them.smile



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You would think the seller could substantiate the price with GM Canada paperwork.

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4SPEED427 wrote:

The claim is that it's a 425 horse powerglide? That would be a one of none?

 I don't see anywhere stating it's a powerglide.



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4SPEED427 wrote:

The claim is that it's a 425 horse powerglide? That would be a one of none?

 I don't see anywhere stating it's a powerglide.

 pictures show an automatic shifter and console , the only auto would be a glide correct?



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70 SS ACADIAN wrote:
seventy2plus2 wrote:
4SPEED427 wrote:

The claim is that it's a 425 horse powerglide? That would be a one of none?

 I don't see anywhere stating it's a powerglide.

 pictures show an automatic shifter and console , the only auto would be a glide correct?

3 speed Turboglides were available in Chevy's 1957 - 1961, not sure if another 3 speed replaced them.



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I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure the console in this Parisienne is not a 1964 Canadian Pontiac console.

It is from an American 1964 Chevrolet Impala SS , with modification done to the top of the console, where the Impala SS would have been.

Canadian made Pontiacs and Chevrolets in 1962,1963 and 1964 did not have the swirls you see in the console,

Canadian Chevrolets had the brushed aluminium look in the interior console and in the trim on the outside body.

The Canadian Pontiacs also only had the brushed aluminium in the interior console

The American Chevrolets had the swirls on the console and on the body trim.

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1964 Chevrolet Impala SS Automatic Console - Dias Classic Cars

 

 



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