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Swivel style trailer hitch pin


Don't ever use one of these. Even though I always double check to make sure it's rotated 90 degrees and correctly installed, yesterday it cost me a nice bunch of scratches and a dent in the back bumper of our new 2022 GMC when it somehow fell out and the empty boat trailer came unhooked at about 20 miles an hour. The scratches and dent are minor compared to what could have happened 30 miles earlier when I was towing a boat out on the highway. I don't even want to think of the possibilities of a 17' boat being pulled only by the safety chains on the trailer. NEVER again will I use one this style, NEVER.

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Thanks for the PSA Carl. Could have been way worse I guess.

Have had that style in my hand a few times, but I never bought them.

I've used the hairpin clip style for years without any issues even though it's always looked iffy to me. But what would be the best? 



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I use a locking pin.

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cdnpont wrote:

Thanks for the PSA Carl. Could have been way worse I guess.

Have had that style in my hand a few times, but I never bought them.

I've used the hairpin clip style for years without any issues even though it's always looked iffy to me. But what would be the best? 


 At minimum the hairpin style. I'm going to look into what's out there, there may be something even better.

The frustrating thing is, I double checked it and often maybe 15-30 minutes into my journey I stop and check everything again. In this case I stopped 30 miles away, when I got to the edge of the city and all was fine. I towed the boat about 80 miles without incident thankfully.  And the day before I towed an almost identical boat to the same yard without incident.



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Canadian Poncho wrote:

I use a locking pin.


 Which style do you use Todd?



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Probably overkill but years ago a friend lost a trailer. No one was hurt but it scared the hell out of him. He would only use a 5/8 bolt and a locknut after his experience.

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4SPEED427 wrote:
cdnpont wrote:

Thanks for the PSA Carl. Could have been way worse I guess.

Have had that style in my hand a few times, but I never bought them.

I've used the hairpin clip style for years without any issues even though it's always looked iffy to me. But what would be the best? 


 At minimum the hairpin style. I'm going to look into what's out there, there may be something even better.

The frustrating thing is, I double checked it and often maybe 15-30 minutes into my journey I stop and check everything again. In this case I stopped 30 miles away, when I got to the edge of the city and all was fine. I towed the boat about 80 miles without incident thankfully.  And the day before I towed an almost identical boat to the same yard without incident.


I bet if the trailer had been loaded (as in previous) it wouldn't have come out. The bar was probably bucking around quite a bit, and rattled or jostled the retainer tab back. The one thing I wish the manufactures did better was to come up with a way to have the hitch bar fit 100% precisely into the receiver.

It's always hit and mis if the fit is going to be ok with different brands isn't it. What do you guys do to help this?



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I have two different types. This one is still available on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07VDN2H96/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
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I also have this one however it's currently not available on Amazon but I'm sure there are similar ones. Either one works well for me. 
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Canadian Poncho wrote:

I use a locking pin.


 Which style do you use Todd?


 



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Thanks Todd, I will look into those.

Mark, you are so right. The way those things clunk around in there I likely shouldn't be surprised. The fit on some of them is awful.

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Here in PEI the good ol salt air and winter salt usually welds them into the receiver!


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4SPEED427 wrote:

Thanks Todd, I will look into those.

Mark, you are so right. The way those things clunk around in there I likely shouldn't be surprised. The fit on some of them is awful.


 This may help with the clunk. 
Anti Rattle Hitch Tightener Stabilizer No Sway for 2" and 1.25" Steel Heavy Duty Rust Free https://a.co/d/1NrZ5EQ

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RE: Swivel style trailer hitch pin


That would work!



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Ive used one like this for years but I dont tow far or a lot. The blue lock is spring loaded. 
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I've never had issues with the pin coming out and I have towed lots of cars from Lac La Biche, Grand Beach and surrounding areas.

I don't know Carls case but the one major error that I continiously inform many people of is the placement of the retaining pin that holds in the reciever. Many people are right handed and the install the pin from the passenger side of the vehicle to the left side which is WRONG. You ALWAYS install the pin from the left side of the vehicle to the right.

Many people ask why and after explaining the way the roads (should) are built with the crown of the road being the center, the pin should never fall out when installed from the left side, uphill, of the vehicle but will most likely fall out if installed from the right side, downside, of the vehicle if ever the clip or whichever safty retainer fails. That pin with no retainer should have stayed in place as it. Mine is never against the retainer when I check. 

So? Please make sure that the pins are installed left to right, unless you are living across the pond and are driving right hand drive.








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67Poncho wrote:

I've never had issues with the pin coming out and I have towed lots of cars from Lac La Biche, Grand Beach and surrounding areas.

I don't know Carls case but the one major error that I continiously inform many people of is the placement of the retaining pin that holds in the reciever. Many people are right handed and the install the pin from the passenger side of the vehicle to the left side which is WRONG. You ALWAYS install the pin from the left side of the vehicle to the right.

Many people ask why and after explaining the way the roads (should) are built with the crown of the road being the center, the pin should never fall out when installed from the left side, uphill, of the vehicle but will most likely fall out if installed from the right side, downside, of the vehicle if ever the clip or whichever safty retainer fails. That pin with no retainer should have stayed in place as it. Mine is never against the retainer when I check. 

So? Please make sure that the pins are installed left to right, unless you are living across the pond and are driving right hand drive.



-- Edited by 67Poncho on Friday 13th of January 2023 11:21:10 AM


 Interesting about the left vs right. I had never thought of that but I always install from the left side. The reason being, on both 97's I owned from 2000 until a month ago I had the RV style socket installed to the left of centre of the hitch. If I tried to put the pin in from the right side the hairpin clip interfered with the wiring harness connector. Then when I got this new style (which failed) me I just continued to install from the left out of habit. No matter, from now on I'm going to install something foolproof, possibly a bolt and lock nut like Prefect.ca suggested. My life isn't so busy that I can't afford an extra 30 seconds to install a bolt/nut vs a pin with a clip.



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 Interesting about the left vs right. I had never thought of that but I always install from the left side. The reason being, on both 97's I owned from 2000 until a month ago I had the RV style socket installed to the left of centre of the hitch. If I tried to put the pin in from the right side the hairpin clip interfered with the wiring harness connector. Then when I got this new style (which failed) me I just continued to install from the left out of habit. No matter, from now on I'm going to install something foolproof, possibly a bolt and lock nut like Prefect.ca suggested. My life isn't so busy that I can't afford an extra 30 seconds to install a bolt/nut vs a pin with a clip.


 And many times I see and hear that people install from the right because the plug interfears with installing the pin. Always the exception to any case.



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I once loaded my bike rack with 2 bikes into the receiver in our underground garage. Not the best lighting. I drove about 3 blocks and then heard this loud scraping sound and checked the mirror to see 2 bicycles sliding along behind me.

I had put the pin in with the hairpin lock and it was still in place. I just had not put the rack in far enough to line up with the locking hole.

Best bet is to use a flashlight to confirm the locking posiition.

Bike rack now long gone due to my balance problems and a distate for eating dirt at speed falling off!!!!



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