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1969 Grande Parisienne 427 Sport Sedan


Must be low build numbers. Your favourite, three pedals. Sounds like he still has the passion

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This car needs some donor sections, combined with talented metalwork. If it suffers the same fate as so many of it's brethren, there will hardly be any left. Could a more common Catalina from a dry climate donate sections? Impala interior floors, unique Impala-esq trunk floors.

Maybe 15 ~ 20 years back there used to be a Midnight Green GP hardtop sedan a few blocks from me. It was super nice, but I saw bubbles start at the rear wheel openings and the car was quickly sold. Usually cars get kicked down the road until they end up disappearing for scrap.

Restoration used to be about bringing one back from death's door. Many more saw dollar signs, ultimately some losing, some gaining. Now it is about the money. You certainly need it, and some talent and vision. And an understanding wife...

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67 Chevelle Malibu Sport Coupe, Oshawa-built 250 PG never disturbed.

In garage, 296 cid inline six & TH350...

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Thanks for the info. I am curious how it is known how many Parisienne sport coups were made with 427s but not the same data for other models. Is it a process that someone at VVS has to manually run through to get those numbers?

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They are able to tally it fairly easily from what I gather but I guess at this point nobody has done a query on a sport sedan so we don't have that info in the production numbers. It would be great if you were willing to do it (hint, hint!)

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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles 

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Well I guess that would bring forward some useful information. I have been considering it since the car is so complete and clearly not too common. So far the only thing missing are the wheel covers.
Original protect-o-plate, owner manual, keys, jack, and skirts are there.

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I know it's a project but I'm betting if you get the documents everyone will be surprised at how low the production is.

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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles 

1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)



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IMG_8880.pngLooking over the option sheet, there is a code P74, which I believe refers to the dual stripe white wall. Has anyone seen these before? Could not find a picture of a Pontiac wearing them, but here is a caprice with dual stripes. 



-- Edited by Shrike on Monday 30th of October 2023 04:36:23 AM

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Dual white-stripe tires were Caprice & Grande Parisienne exclusives in 1969. For 1970 the industry switched to fibreglass-belted bias ply tires that had dual-stripes on the sidewalls and they were used by most cars. Gone after the '71s.

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In garage, 296 cid inline six & TH350...

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4SPEED427 wrote:

They are able to tally it fairly easily from what I gather but I guess at this point nobody has done a query on a sport sedan so we don't have that info in the production numbers. It would be great if you were willing to do it (hint, hint!)


 I'm pretty sure that it would have to be calculated by hand, I don't think they have taken the time to computerize the system.  BUT it may be broken down as to which division received the engine/tranny etc.

For example..  Oshawa received "X" amount of 427's, the engine code would be specific for each model, Chev, Poncho, Chevelle. So they may have micro fiche for that application....



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Well, I just looked closer at the Grande Parisienne in the brochure and sure enough, it has the dual stripe tires. 
On another note, I was admiring the immaculate condition of my Grande grille, wondering how it survived so long without a crack. Then I realized the whole thing is metal! Is the Strato/Laurentien/Parisienne grille also metal? Were there any differences between those model grilles? 



-- Edited by Shrike on Monday 30th of October 2023 11:34:42 AM

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The Grande Parisienne grills were unique to the Grande and the Safari.

Identical to the US Bonneville but like almost everything else on the car, but Made In Canada.

Canadian Grande grills have a different suffix after the part number.

They also have different mounting holes for "Pontiac" as US Bonneville cars used a longer "Bonneville" name plate

Grande grills are cast steel or alloy chromed and painted with a plastic surround.

The plastic surroundings are the hardest thing to find.

All other models used a one-piece plastic grill for each side.

Mark's car has NOS US Bonneville Grills with surrounds off the Grande in my avatar.

Cool part is the cast part of the grills were passed from Todd to Mark and then passed on to me.

Of course, I passed the grills back to him this summer. biggrin
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-- Edited by ABC123 on Monday 30th of October 2023 06:53:00 PM



-- Edited by ABC123 on Monday 30th of October 2023 07:02:46 PM

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Whew...that beam has a "wow" in it...

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Photo edited to concentrate on the grill biggrin



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ABC123 wrote:

Photo edited to concentrate on the grill biggrin


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Would there be any interest out there from anyone to take this car and restore it? I know I dont have the budget to do it myself and would like it to go to someone who can do a full restoration on it instead of pulling it apart.

And Happy 427 Day!



-- Edited by Shrike on Saturday 27th of April 2024 08:56:24 PM

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It runs and drives?

Do you have an idea what you want for it?

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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles 

1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)



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It was a a running car when parked back in 1984 but the engine is now stuck. I have never driven the car. 
I bought the car for the drivetrain for another project but the rarity of the car has made me reconsider pulling it apart. 
I had also considered doing a full restoration on it but will not have the resources to do so. 
I would love to find a 1969 LS-1 drivetrain and the 427 emblems for my project. 



-- Edited by Shrike on Saturday 27th of April 2024 09:21:00 PM

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Anyone have any knowledge of a 1969 LS-1 with a TH-400 and the fender 427 emblems for sale anywhere?



-- Edited by Shrike on Monday 29th of April 2024 10:19:13 PM

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