W-74 and ZJ9 IP options

ABC123 · Uber Guru

W-74 and ZJ9 IP options

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Think of it this way. Every Canadian Poncho owner will likely check out the lounge. Only the 65-70 full size owner will check out this sub-section. Ninety 65-70 full size Pontiac owners in about 3 days seems about right.

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

What does it do beyond speedmind? Is it different than those?

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

cdnpont wrote:
What does it do beyond speedmind? Is it different than those?

It has a low fuel warning light below the 120 mph marker.

-- Edited by seventy2plus2 on Sunday 18th of February 2024 12:37:58 PM

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

ahh

CdnGMfan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

In 1969/70 the full-sized Chevrolet offered a very similar warning light package. They were carried within the little squares underneath the sweep speedometer. It is partially referred to in the owner's manual (which I would have to dig up) and the AMA specs (I have to go through it). It is though it is the Chevrolet version of what ABC123 is referring to. I'm speculating here but perhaps they use the same sensors.
As I recall there was a Low Fuel light, Seatbelt light and perhaps Washer Fluid Monitor (1970). It was all part of a package, but which one... It may have been the Convenience Lighting package which I believe is ZJ9.
I really need to dig up my reference stuff and report back sometime.

Actually it is Low Fuel, Seat Belt Warning, and Door Ajar warning on the Chevrolet version.

-- Edited by CdnGMfan on Monday 19th of February 2024 11:56:58 AM

North · Guru

on the 69 Pontiac version the three blocks are (I don't recall the order):

Low fuel (comes on at about 1/8th)
lights on (iirc when key is out of ignition and lights are on)
seat belt (just a timer for x seconds each time you put the key in to run - no connection to the belts being buckled or not)

These warning lamps were part of the lighting group ($45.85 on 2+2 coupes, $40.90 on 2+2 ragtops) option which also included courtesy lights (under dash-std in convertible), ash tray light, underhood light and maplight (on inside rearview mirror). It was a separate option from the speed warning option, and you could order either option or both so there were three possible clusters on a 69 Canadian Pontiac.

On the US side the cluster situation was quite different since the warning lights were offered as a standalone option. They also offered the speed warning stand alone. In addition to these options was a auxiliary gauge option that added oil pressure, temperature and state of charge gauges. warning lights could be ordered with speed warning and speed warning could be ordered with the gauge option, but gauges and warning lights could not be ordered together so it was also impossible to order all three. Therefore, US cars had 4 possible clusters. Actually, in addition to these choices in the US there was also a calibrated (police only) cluster available with or without the gauges (but not with warning lamps nor speed minder) option as well as a metric cluster (export only) that was not offered with any of the options so the total different US clusters was seven.

ABC123 · Uber Guru

Thanks John !

I really appreciate the knowledge you have with these cars.

CdnGMfan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

X2 John!

When I saw the pic posted above with the wood-grained steering wheel shroud it reminded me of a neighbour who owned a '69 Laurentian 75669 with that shroud from new. They aren't supposed to run them, just the Parisienne, 2+2 & Grande Parisienne. It had a vinyl roof cover on it, a new option on that body style. I wonder if Deluxe Seat Belts made any difference to the shroud? After all, a few years later they offered colour-keyed Deluxe Belts that included a Colour-keyed Steering Wheel.
The '69 Laurentian I speak of replaced a '63 Laurentian BTW. That was to my west. My neighbours to my east had a '63 Laurentian, and across the street and right two houses they had both a '63 & '64 Laurentian simultaneously. Straight in my line of sight out the front window, next block over was a new '69 Crystal Turquoise Laurentian 4-door. Next block east had a '69 Parisienne Sport Sedan. They were everywhere, yet almost always 350s. Very occasionally sixes, while 396s were rare and 427s were like unicorns.