Documenting a 69 2+2 before it becomes history

ABC123 · Uber Guru

Documenting a 69 2+2 before it becomes history

Howmac · Guru

Good score ..... Lots of great parts available on this one....

LT1Caddy · Guru

I know where there is another 2+2 sitting. Interior was mint last year...

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Good score!!
I'd debate the wiring running down the passenger side on later cars, I've never seen that and would add unnecessary wire.

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

I'm always amazed how well the chrome held up on the 69's. Lots of good parts on that one.

gtodrive · Guru

Nice job saving this one for parts and documentation, Randy! When and IF you want to sell a few smaller parts, I would be interested, so please PM me. Again, nice save! Thanks!

ABC123 · Uber Guru

Two weeks ago, Mark said "I wish I had a black boot for my black car"

He has first dibs on this one.

The nut for the antenna base is available. If I can get it off in one piece, this unit will be going on my car.

The fins are in great shape and will be kept as back ups until my car is done.

The power top works !

The nose cone appears unrepaired.

Should clean up well and will be on the Project 2+2 when it's done.

The left grill is in great shape but the left one is toast.

You know, I still don't understand when each of the 3 different paint styles on the grills were used.

Heater controls in amazing shape, yep, going on my car.

Instrument panel busted up however the stainless script is saveable.

-- Edited by ABC123 on Friday 30th of August 2024 07:05:45 PM

CDN2PLS2 · Uber Guru

My 2+2 had the Glide console.

ABC123 · Uber Guru

CDN2PLS2 wrote:
My 2+2 had the Glide console.

By the order books that North posted, You could order the power glide in all B-bodies.

I did not realize that it was done often.

ABC123 · Uber Guru

Got your nose biggrin

So this next tidbit has guys looking inside their fenders.

The stanless at the top of the fenfed has eyes.

Dug out the box that Howard sent and about 50% have the eyes and the rest are like the one at the top corner.

The white car trim does not have eyes.

Shrike · Veteran Member

Can you explain/show the difference in the two taillight versions regarding the drip rail?? Never knew about this. Thanks

ABC123 · Uber Guru

I will find the really good posts on here, by other members about it.

If someone finds it before me, please post it.

Bassically two tail light designs for 1969.

Early ones has a flush design with the back-up lense sticking out, almost looked slapped on.

2nd generation had a drip rail along the bottom of the lense and the white back up lense was more refined and smooth fitted with the red.

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Shrike wrote:
Can you explain/show the difference in the two taillight versions regarding the drip rail?? Never knew about this. Thanks

I posted photo's years ago of the drip rail vs non drip rail, but can't find the thread. I recently sold a set with the drip rail, check out this thread:

https://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t70987665/1969-parisienne-22-grande-parisienne-bonneville-tail-light-l/

Shrike · Veteran Member

I see the drip rail is a ridge built into the lenses. Neat detail. Ill have to look close at my late 68 build grande to see what it has.

JC2+2 · Poncho Master!

Are the louvers mounted the correct way on this car - scooping forwards? Im a 68 guy. Mine face the opposite way.

CDN2PLS2 · Uber Guru

Does this Verdoro car have the blackout around the tail lights?

gtodrive · Guru

JC2+2 wrote:
Are the louvers mounted the correct way on this car - scooping forwards? Im a 68 guy. Mine face the opposite way.

Yes, they are the right direction, even though it might look wrong. biggrin

ABC123 · Uber Guru

CDN2PLS2 wrote:
Does this Verdoro car have the blackout around the tail lights?

The black out paint really seems depend on who was working that shift biggrin

Other than white, there seems to be no hard rule.

Black paint on the tail panel

Green one seems to be the original paint in that area.

ABC123 · Uber Guru

Shrike wrote:
Can you explain/show the difference in the two taillight versions regarding the drip rail?? Never knew about this. Thanks

Early taillights

Later ones,

See the ridge at the bottom.

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

seventy2plus2 wrote:
Good score!!
I'd debate the wiring running down the passenger side on later cars, I've never seen that and would add unnecessary wire.

I put a bit more thought into your comment about the wiring running down the passenger side. I can't remember if it's the wire for the rear antenna, or rear speaker wire, but it ran down the passenger side and had a metal guard under the rear seat to protect the wires. Is this what you're speaking of?

ABC123 · Uber Guru

seventy2plus2 wrote:
seventy2plus2 wrote:
Good score!!
I'd debate the wiring running down the passenger side on later cars, I've never seen that and would add unnecessary wire.
I put a bit more thought into your comment about the wiring running down the passenger side. I can't remember if it's the wire for the rear antenna, or rear speaker wire, but it ran down the passenger side and had a metal guard under the rear seat to protect the wires. Is this what you're speaking of?

bonneville rear attena.jpg

The rear antenna wire is on the passenger side. I never cracked this casing open, on the Black Parisienne, to see what else was inside of the casing.

The driver's side factory sound deadener was never touched so I believe people when they say there is a harness under there.

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

ABC123 wrote:
seventy2plus2 wrote:
seventy2plus2 wrote:
Good score!!
I'd debate the wiring running down the passenger side on later cars, I've never seen that and would add unnecessary wire.
I put a bit more thought into your comment about the wiring running down the passenger side. I can't remember if it's the wire for the rear antenna, or rear speaker wire, but it ran down the passenger side and had a metal guard under the rear seat to protect the wires. Is this what you're speaking of?

The rear antenna wire is on the passenger side. I never cracked this casing open, on the Black Parisienne, to see what else was inside of the casing.
The driver's side factory sound deadener was never touched so I believe people when they say there is a harness under there.

Yes, that's the metal guard on the right hand side of the photo. I've sold one or two of the to members.

ABC123 · Uber Guru

This one is the only one I have ever seen in person that was not rotted out.

They just used self-tapping screws through the floor boards.

gtodrive · Guru

Nice power antenna set-up! That came off this parts car? Is it for sale? biggrin

ABC123 · Uber Guru

The beauty is on Mark's black convertible.