62 ACADIAN AND 69 BEAUMONT OIL PANS

wagon64sd · Guru

62 ACADIAN AND 69 BEAUMONT OIL PANS

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

I can check tonight but I am pretty sure the Nova and Acadian pan is unique. I think all that will work is 62-67 Nova and Acadian.

wagon64sd · Guru

hey carl`did you come up with anything on the pans?? i`am thinking they`ll different..

forespeed · Poncho Master!

The 62 pan is definitely a front sump which requires a matching front sump pick up tube. Also the shaft between the distributor and oil pump is shorter.
they were like this from 62-67. Rear sump pans will not clear the steering linkage.
They make a pan for the V-8 that is notched and then you do not need to change any other parts.
If you changed the front clip to aftermarket, you don't have a problem.
Norm

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Norm, are you talking V8 only or 6 cyl as well? I see he is asking for 6 cyl.

I forgot to look this stuff up last night.

forespeed · Poncho Master!

As you can see in this picture of a 63 Nova with the 194 6 cyl, the oil sump is in the front. It is located between the steering linkage and the front crossmember.
I don't believe there is enough room available for a rear sump pan.
I did check some suppliers and it doesn't appear they are selling a front sump pan for the 6 cyl but it is possible that the V-8 pan is interchangable.
Norm

-- Edited by forespeed on Tuesday 30th of March 2010 10:00:55 AM

timbuk · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

both 6 and 8 require a front sump pan for 62-7

wagon64sd · Guru

ok. it sounds like i`ll have to change the pick up and oil pan witch is not a big deal since it`s coming out anyway..anything else that i`ll have to rob from the 194 to the big 250. hmm

timbuk · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

you may have to make a new dipstick hole in the pan and reconfigure your stick because of the stick location 194 versus 250.I did this on my 67 nova and works good now!

wagon64sd · Guru

timbuk wrote:

you may have to make a new dipstick hole in the pan and reconfigure your stick because of the stick location 194 versus 250.I did this on my 67 nova and works good now!

didn`t even think about that one!!thanks for the heads up..it all comes to the 194 over heating,maybe i should just take the head off and get it rebuilt confuse

forespeed · Poncho Master!

wagon64sd wrote:

ok. it sounds like i`ll have to change the pick up and oil pan witch is not a big deal since it`s coming out anyway..anything else that i`ll have to rob from the 194 to the big 250.

Did you read the part I posted about the shorter distance from distributor to oil pump??
According to Chevy2Only catalog,

Rear sump oil pump will not work on a front sump application.

OIL PUMP DRIVE ROD
Oil pump drive rod for the front sump oil pan is different than a standard
Chevy small block. It is ½ shorter. Pt# 01004

timbuk · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

4 speed mis right you also need to change out the oil pump and pickup-250s go alot better than a 194

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

forespeed wrote:

wagon64sd wrote:

ok. it sounds like i`ll have to change the pick up and oil pan witch is not a big deal since it`s coming out anyway..anything else that i`ll have to rob from the 194 to the big 250.

Did you read the part I posted about the shorter distance from distributor to oil pump??
According to Chevy2Only catalog,
Rear sump oil pump will not work on a front sump application.

OIL PUMP DRIVE ROD
Oil pump drive rod for the front sump oil pan is different than a standard
Chevy small block. It is ½ shorter. Pt# 01004

Norm, is there a drive rod on a 6 cyl? GM parts book has none listed. I asked one of our techs and he says the distributor goes right to the oil pump, no intermediate shaft.

65sssd · Poncho Master!

wagon64sd wrote:

ok. it sounds like i`ll have to change the pick up and oil pan witch is not a big deal since it`s coming out anyway..anything else that i`ll have to rob from the 194 to the big 250.

Anything wrong with the 194? It's a 4 cyl right? I'm looking for a rebuilt or good running one.

Lefty · Uber Guru

i drilled a new hole on my 250 6 for dip stick tube
In the same location as 194

-- Edited by Lefty on Tuesday 30th of March 2010 05:07:43 PM

wagon64sd · Guru

65sssd wrote:

wagon64sd wrote:

ok. it sounds like i`ll have to change the pick up and oil pan witch is not a big deal since it`s coming out anyway..anything else that i`ll have to rob from the 194 to the big 250.

Anything wrong with the 194? It's a 4 cyl right? I'm looking for a rebuilt or good running one.

194 is a 6cyl wink

wagon64sd · Guru

Lefty wrote:

i drilled a new hole on my 250 6 for dip stick tube
In the same location as 194

-- Edited by Lefty on Tuesday 30th of March 2010 05:07:43 PM

i love what you did biggrin

how did you plug the other dip stick hole in the block..did you just use a hand drill, if so how did you get the angle right.. also what did you have to change to make the 250 work..oil pump and pick up and pan and......

-- Edited by wagon64sd on Wednesday 31st of March 2010 06:49:01 AM

Lefty · Uber Guru

oil pan and sump came from my old 194, and I used the 194 as well to figure out the angle so the dipstick would pass between the block and the sump pipe
it is actually 2 holes one slightly smaller first (after pilot hole)
so the tube bottoms out aprox 1/2in down.

-- Edited by Lefty on Wednesday 31st of March 2010 07:50:27 AM