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327 ss owned now since 1995 origional green with fawn interior

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Very Nice Car!!! Have you seen the White 396 car for sale in Courtenay? The guy is asking $10,000 comes with the new floor pans and trunk pan..it's unrestored!!

-- Edited by grande jim on Sunday 11th of July 2010 11:02:09 AM

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69Laurentian wrote:

From what I can tell the frame on my 69 Laurentian is good.


Your's has led a pampered life, Toddbiggrin

 



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my 66 post is rotted right out and the parts car that i got for it is soft as well but my hard top car was good and solid all three are alberta cars edmonton area guess it is just luck of the draw lol and 2 out of 3 aint bad lol  wink

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If you don't have the frame your screwed. Tuff to find and they only get worse over time. I would say most are rotten because I buy beaters. That's how they become beaters. At least 70%.

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66 Grande guy wrote:

I'm curious.  What percentage of these cars end up with rotten frames in you guy's experience.  I have 5 or these (1 project and three parts cars) and 3 out of 5 are rotten behind the drivers front wheel.  These are Alberta cars.  Is this typical?



my opinion    My 1966 Strato Chief was 1 of 2792 built in 1966......

I figure 2700 of them were rotten and at the junk yard by 1976
and that was 34 years ago   

Why would the remainder of the cars not have frame problemsconfuse

 



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It always ends up that it's worse then it seems lol i thought mine was really bad but it turned out even worse lol now its a tank. this repair is only costing me 280 bucks  now my car will be a tank  now but any frame can be repaired just takes timebiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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mine is from bc, but last diven in 1981. it looks like new everywhere. no rust at all, nothing. i have taken that complete car apart with a 3/8 air ratchet. no joke!

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66 Grande guy wrote:

So the early consensus is that if you have one that isn't patched it is the exception unless maybe you get your cars from southern Alberta or the interior of B.C.?
(or heated  garage kept)


What is this world coming too?  Somebody really should talk to GM about that!



mine comes from inland bc. it hasnt been on the road since 1981. it is absolutely flawless. never been touched, and shouldnt need to be either. been in ontario since. been inside for the last year, and every year , from here on.

 



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Could any of our American members confirm, that the United States frame is the same shap, in that area?  
I'm thinking you could get a southern section and graft in.. 

We do it a lot with late model trucks

-- Edited by 427carl on Sunday 13th of February 2011 05:14:13 PM

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i thought southern frames were u.s.? how would that apply to us?

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tin indian wrote:

i thought southern frames were u.s.? how would that apply to us?




  They apply to us when they are Chevy frames...since our Canadian Pontiacs, as you know, use Chevy frames!!!



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Johnnee D wrote:

Is Winnipeg a good place to find cars with good frames?




 I think it is all how they were kept.... But the '67 2-dr post I have here from Manitoba, as I stated above, is shot! When I was towing this car home, I was looking at the cars on the highway in the Winnepeg area and a lot of them had more rust prone areas than the cars in Saskatchewan.....

 But I am conifedently sure that all the major cities will have more rust out than the rural not so populated less salted communities.... The town I am in doesnt use salt at all... We drive on snow covered streets.....



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so they are all rotten? or is their a place where chevy frames can still be gotten?

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 Not all........... Just got to be lucky to find a good one! I have, with a quick look, a real nice one on a '66 Caprice 4 dr H/Top I have here. One on a '68 Strato 4 dr and a '69 Impala Custom looks decent as well. These are all parts cars.

 The '66 Laurentian Wagon I got this summer is a little soft on the R/Rear rail just where it starts going up over the rear wheel. The '67 Laurentian Wagon I just got is real nice.... But the bottoms of the fenders are bad! Hit and miss!!

-- Edited by 67Poncho on Sunday 13th of February 2011 06:05:34 PM

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ive gone to see 8 67 pontiac parisienne's  only one had a good frame and it was 3 feet in the ground lol he pulled it out to sell it ..... my guess it's the way it was preped from the factory or the owners taking car of them lol

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i,ll have to post some pics of the bottom fenders, and the frame, behind the wheels on my 66, for what thier supposed to look like. i,m not showing off, but thought you all would like to see.

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My 1970 Bonneville convertible frame was super rotten too, this WPG car was driven all year round in its days. Back in the late 70s in Quebec, a friend of mine jumped a railroad track and broke the frame of a 1968 Impala behind the front wheels ...

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 I have real good ones and not so good. My rust free ones from Goose-Bay Labrador on my both my 2+2's are absolutely clean. My '70 Parisienne from Labrador, the same and I have '70 sheet metal, fenders doors and wheel wells here that look like the day they were stamped. 

 I am picking up what you are tossing down!!!  

 Like I posted earlier, when I was in Labrador and had been smarter, I would have had lots of parts but like most on here, I believed it would be there forever... Guess what? Gone................disbelief

-- Edited by 67Poncho on Sunday 13th of February 2011 06:47:43 PM

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I think most Manitobans would agree that the best frames in this province are rural, especially from the southwest corner of the province. There's a drier sandier area out there, south of number one highway.


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Carl Stevenson wrote:

I think most Manitobans would agree that the best frames in this province are rural, especially from the southwest corner of the province. There's a drier sandier area out there, south of number one highway.




  And I would summize for us it too here in Saskatchewan it should be south and southwest as well especially in the Swift Current area. I here it is much drier there as well.......



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i've never responded to this thread originally and should have. the 69 caprice that i stripped from florida had a awesome frame, wish i had kept it. i thought mine (70 2+2) looked nice and wouldn't need repair, that is until i lifted the body. cross member that the rear shock mount to had issues plus all the other usual stuff for an ontario car. all the body mounts needed loving attention. someone had sand blasted the car along time ago, the front looked good but got worse as you went rearward.

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My 68 Conv Ontario car appears to have a good one. The 69 hardtop a few years back (Todd s now) has a good one and the 69 conv I sold @ Barrie had a good one. But then I guess rags may have been mostly out of the weather and we all know the hardtop was out of everything ! Steel rusts when exposed to the elements

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I think mines good, we'll know for sure once I get the body off ...

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My ragtop frame siderails were packed full of pale coloured sand. Like the kind you'd see at Sauble beach. My thought is the car likely drove on a beach or became buried on one at some point. The sides were soft, so I cut them out and replaced them.  But I probably should have just replaced the entire frame, they're not that hard to come by.

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