I need your help guys , i am pulling out my 283 out of my Beaumont pretty soon
actually the engine is bone original and stock , even still have the points in the distributor
what i want ............... by the way engine runs fine , its has a leak by the rear crank seal and a little bit of pushrod klikitty klak
about 300 hp a nice rumbling sound thats it
so i know the distributor will be convered to electronic
i would like to hear some suggestions about 1 a cam 2 manifold and carb ( 4 barrel ) 3 maybe a little work on the heads 4 pushrods and rockers
i wish to keep the stock manifolds ans i already have duals exausts
another question would be what to do with my powerglide , what to do to refresh it to deal with the extra 100 hp
my budget is arround 2500.00 including labour , and the guys arround here work at arround 35 .00 / h ( i am pretty shure i dont need an oversize but i will do it if i have to , after dismantelling )
please dont telle me to ditch the 283 , because i ts so easy to do it with a 350...............i heard that song many times , i want to keep the original engine ,...............because i ts was the the available small block in that era , the 350 was born that year , but only available in the Camaro.
so let me know what you think .
-- Edited by since 1983 on Sunday 20th of March 2011 09:19:40 PM
-- Edited by since 1983 on Sunday 20th of March 2011 09:22:09 PM
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1967 BEAUMONT 2 DOOR POST ALL NEW 283
1965 CHEV BEL AIR 230 3 SPEED
I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.
I HAVE THIS THING FOR A 4 DOOR 65 BISCAYNE 6 CYL STD DONT KNOW WHY ?
2500 will be more then enough if you get a camshaft with a really good set of lifters and a intake /carb i think you could get 300 without modifing the heads. but change the exhaust that will make her pur real nice with mine im going with a 0.30 over bore because it's the same price for as .10 over so i was like hellz yea lol just from the bigger pistons the shop said i would get somthing like 14 more Horse power
The old engines seemed to wear out enough in 75,000 miles to need boring. I am guessing part of it may have to do with how much grit was in them compared to now with our unleaded fuel.
The combustion chambers are spotless in the new ones at 150,000 miles.
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
yup times have changed .................this car clocks 84000 miles , so.........i guess we will give it a 10 thousand
so i also have to choose pistons ans rings
what do you think about my budget ?????
-- Edited by since 1983 on Monday 21st of March 2011 01:06:39 PM
it still works trust me i found a kit where im getting almost everything even over sized pistons and rings for under 400 bucks =) just search around a little you will find what you need
yup times have changed .................this car clocks 84000 miles , so.........i guess we will give it a 10 thousand
so i also have to choose pistons ans rings
what do you think about my budget ?????
-- Edited by since 1983 on Monday 21st of March 2011 01:06:39 PM
it still works trust me i found a kit where im getting almost everything even over sized pistons and rings for under 400 bucks =) just search around a little you will find what you need
i know they are cheap to rebuild , my engine guy is gonna take care of that
he knows what to buy.
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1967 BEAUMONT 2 DOOR POST ALL NEW 283
1965 CHEV BEL AIR 230 3 SPEED
I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.
I HAVE THIS THING FOR A 4 DOOR 65 BISCAYNE 6 CYL STD DONT KNOW WHY ?
i agree with carl. you will prolly need to have it bored, your budget is really high, so since you can spare it, have your heads ported and polished to pick up those extra ponies. an airgap or performer intake is great for your app. summit makes an awsome 600 cfm double pump, vac secondary for $250., and the l79 cam is a decent option.all this and your hei distibutor and you should be good for around the 300 hp mark you can also check into a thinner head gasket to raise your compression a bit.
-- Edited by tin indian on Monday 21st of March 2011 01:31:47 PM
i agree with carl. you will prolly need to have it bored, your budget is really high, so since you can spare it, have your heads ported and polished to pick up those extra ponies. an airgap or performer intake is great for your app. summit makes an awsome 600 cfm double pump, vac secondary for $250., and the l79 cam is a decent option.all this and your hei distibutor and you should be good for around the 300 hp mark you can also check into a thinner head gasket to raise your compression a bit.
-- Edited by tin indian on Monday 21st of March 2011 01:31:47 PM
sounds simple a i might need to spend less ,GOOD !
L 79 cam and a 600 cfm double pump heads ported
thanks guys......................any other suggestions ??
ohhh yes i forgot.......what about keeping my orig exaust manifolds
could that be possible , can i port those for better flow ?????
-- Edited by since 1983 on Monday 21st of March 2011 02:31:22 PM
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1967 BEAUMONT 2 DOOR POST ALL NEW 283
1965 CHEV BEL AIR 230 3 SPEED
I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.
I HAVE THIS THING FOR A 4 DOOR 65 BISCAYNE 6 CYL STD DONT KNOW WHY ?
bored my (66) 283 30 over, figuring 5 years ago. with hei, ram horn exhaust into duals, and vintage eldebrock intake, 600 was too much carb. i've since then replaced the intake with a 65 4 barrel intake off a 327 using a 4g rochester carb. very streetable plus will run up through the gears nicely. cam was 280 lift with 280 duration with .420 valve lift.
I'll throw in my 2 cents... you will have to work a good combo to pull an honest 300hp out of that engine, the exhaust manifolds will hold you back as well. But given your constraints, I'd look into some camel hump heads (1.94 intake not 2.02!) or if you are willing to go to newer technology there are some 305ci heads that are really good for a 283 -hardened seats, bigger valves and small combustion chamber -601, -801, -416, -450. You will want to keep the combustion chamber smaller than 60cc so you don't kill your compression. I would get into newer technology for the camshaft, like the Comp xe250h or bigger with a lunati voodoo 60102. Your stock powerglide will have no problem with 300hp... but upgrading to a TH350 would be better to help that little motor get out of the hole, a 2500 stall and 3.73 or steeper gears... a 500-570 carb -vacuum secondary- will be plenty on a performer intake (grind off the lettering and paint it orange!).
If you are really ambitious and can find one, put in a 327 crank for 307ci!
i love that your sticking withe the 283 powerglide set up it becoming more rare and i think it keeps some of the charicture of the car. big thumbs up !
i love that your sticking withe the 283 powerglide set up it becoming more rare and i think it keeps some of the charicture of the car. big thumbs up !
yup i dont want to go to modern with mods , i want to stick with the original set up
i might oversize just what i need to make it tight
ak 67 sd you have good ideas , but it s briing the car in a another era , got to keep the glide
i want to hot rod it like in the 70s or close to that
the motor is comming out in a couple of weeks
-- Edited by since 1983 on Tuesday 22nd of March 2011 08:50:15 AM
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1967 BEAUMONT 2 DOOR POST ALL NEW 283
1965 CHEV BEL AIR 230 3 SPEED
I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.
I HAVE THIS THING FOR A 4 DOOR 65 BISCAYNE 6 CYL STD DONT KNOW WHY ?
I ran a glide for a long time, i didn't mind it... the 3 speed had more "seat of the pants" feel... I know you want to stick to the period, but no one will know you have a 3 speed (there were 3 speeds in the 70's)... then to make that 283 sing, you could go 307 and a 4speed!! put some big gears in there and spin it to 8000!! The 305 heads, although superior, have accessory bolt holes which you don't want... so the camel hump 1.94's and have them shaved to 58cc combustion chamber is the way to go... I'll bet the exhaust manifolds will choke 20hp+
ak
p.s. i ran an "old school" 327 set up in my car, glide, 3000 stall, 4.56 gears, with a 70's gm off-road gen 1 cam (one step up from the lt1 solid). i also ran a vintage torker intake, on 461 heads w. a home port job and 2.02 valves, and 650dp carb. The car ran 13.6 in the 1/4...@3750#
Im keeping my 283 original with the glide except for the aluminum intake (painted orange) and i kept the oil fill and downdraft pipe with a quadrajet on there. Now im not looking for horsepower though (have you seen the size of this car!!) but just with that 4-barrel on there it sounds mighty nice!!
Im keeping my 283 original with the glide except for the aluminum intake (painted orange) and i kept the oil fill and downdraft pipe with a quadrajet on there. Now im not looking for horsepower though (have you seen the size of this car!!) but just with that 4-barrel on there it sounds mighty nice!!
my 283 with a 2 barrel sounded sweet lol... with no exhaust pipes lol well untill the starter went after the second start up and when i had a coolant hose blow up..... lol good times.... you can rebuild an engine to stock for cheap like my rebuild is costing me about 480 bucks lol thats with being bored 0.10 over and getting oversized pistons,rings camshaft and other things like frost plugs yes im even getting the crank resurfaced and the main journals resurfaced like im ending up with basically a brand new engine im just debating getting it hot tanked to add just to make it easy lol.. gettting back on track i agree with other people the manifolds will limit you but it will look good and make people thing it's stock still.
-- Edited by jonathanD on Tuesday 22nd of March 2011 09:18:58 PM
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