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so my engine is timed and she still won't kick over  when she was trying looks like lint or mouthballs coming out of the cylinders im thinking it might be my battery it might be low because everything is slowing down... but i'm not back firing anymore and smoke is coming out of the right exhaust port at the right time  stilll Nooooo go im wondering what's going on i think i might pop the vlave covers off to see if there is anything in there anyone have any idea's?



-- Edited by jonathanD on Monday 23rd of May 2011 05:26:43 PM

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How old is your fuel? Are the plugs fouling? A little too far advanced will slow down cranking and give a hard start.



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i know my battery is low i was cracking it for a couple days and still no go i made sure my timing was just about perfect i did the timing then cracked it over a couple of times rotated the engine back to the 0 mark and it was still good pointing at the #1 plug =) and my feul is old....4 months maybe....so it could be my feul doing it?. ill walk up the the gas station and got more gas and try it again =)



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jonathanD wrote:

so my engine is timed and she still won't kick over  when she was trying looks like lint or mouthballs coming out of the cylinders im thinking it might be my battery it might be low because everything is slowing down... but i'm not back firing anymore and smoke is coming out of the right exhaust port at the right time  stilll Nooooo go im wondering what's going on i think i might pop the vlave covers off to see if there is anything in there anyone have any idea's?



-- Edited by jonathanD on Monday 23rd of May 2011 05:26:43 PM


 leave the cover ON   maybe somone can come over and HELP you  biggrin



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Be sure you are TDC #1 on compression stroke. Might be 180 degrees out. Still on TDC but #6 compression not #1. Four month old gas shouldn't be an issue. My car comes out of storage after six months with no gas issues and no stabilizer either. Has this engine sat for a long time - like years? Also may have stuck valves. Compression check?



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ill run a compression check tomorrow and it sat for a year out of a car....



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Have you got a 10 gauge wire on the power side??



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im using my old horn relay lol



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jonathanD wrote:

so my engine is timed and she still won't kick over  when she was trying looks like lint or mouthballs coming out of the cylinders im thinking it might be my battery it might be low because everything is slowing down... but i'm not back firing anymore and smoke is coming out of the right exhaust port at the right time  stilll Nooooo go im wondering what's going on i think i might pop the valve covers off to see if there is anything in there anyone have any idea's?



-- Edited by jonathanD on Monday 23rd of May 2011 05:26:43 PM


  What do you mean lint or mothballs coming out of the cylinders? Is it possible mice got inside the engine and it is blowing a nest out?

 There should be no reason to pull the covers.

 Was the engine running a year ago when you took it out?

 A good, well charged battery is a must.

 



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ill run out an get one for you



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The engine was a runner when removed. I walked Jonathan through the timing and it sounds like it should be bang on. He is only pouring fuel through the carb, no line hooked up. I would think a good charge and if there is someone near to have a look to make sure he has good spark and good temporary wiring it should fire!!  Sure wish I lived closer :(



-- Edited by unclebernie on Monday 23rd of May 2011 06:52:54 PM

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here are the pictures of one of the balls it's a little burnt lol



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i think i just found my issue  a couple of the boots in the wires that hold the end of the plug a few of them are bent and a couple are missing lol i justt went out in the poring rain and crawled under the tarps lol im wet as if i had a shower but could that be the issue.



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Looks to me like you had a little friend setting up camp in your engine. Which one - the city or country mouse?biggrin



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 Looks like a decayed molar! Good luck with getting it running!



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country mouse lol more layed back =)



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Funny you didn't kick him out when you first had it spinning over.....

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Pontiacanada wrote:
 Looks like a decayed molar! Good luck with getting it running!

 It sure does! Anyone missing a tooth? LOLbiggrin



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Oh i have to take the valve cover off ive got a big oil leak coming from the side of the valve cover it showed up when i was cracking it over it's very large... i was crancking it for maybe 1min and wow it seems like the gasket fell off it's sagging lol i know how does a gasket sage  well it is lol ill just change over to the chrome ones =)



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I think you're getting ahead of your self. First things first. Get it running. Then chrome valve covers.



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it's leaking alot of oil ill take a picture =)



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here is the exhaust port on the passanger side the port beside it and the port on the other side.  it was dry this morning now it's soked in oil so after she is running it's going green and chrome



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