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The reverb I bought


I thought the switch looked kind of Pontiacish or at least not far off.  I'll take a couple more. I see I really need to learn to focus that camera, Sorry.

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-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Sunday 14th of October 2012 10:06:47 PM

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66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome



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You say model # 728474, but in the 2nd photo it looks like there's another digit.  According to my 1969 Delco Radio Service Manual:

7284742   63-64-65 Pontiac Reverb

7284742A  66-67 Pontiac Reverb



-- Edited by seventy2plus2 on Sunday 14th of October 2012 10:14:23 PM

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Carl you've done it again!    Is there anything you don't know? (and I'm not being sarcastic!)

Last question then.  With this reverb you don't need the normal front/rear speaker switch?

 



-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Sunday 14th of October 2012 11:36:44 PM

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66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

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I hope this fits a 66! It says it's model number 728474.  I actually have no clue where it even mounts.

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39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome



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that's so cool... you'll have to do a pictorial on how you mount it...
congrats!

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Perfect, that's not from a 64 Chev like you thought, or at least the switch isn't. The black connector in the foreground plugs into the reverb box. Can you uncurl the harness to show how the wires off the switch look?

A picture of the switch only would be nice.

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Johnnee D wrote:

that's so cool... you'll have to do a pictorial on how you mount it...
congrats!


 Sorry Johnnee can t hear you, its kind of echoey in here!



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66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome



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Ok this is a bit better focus on the switch.

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66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

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Sorry guys I guess I didn't read the whole number as the last numeral is kind of of wrecked but it looks to be Model   7284742 (no A that I can see)

 



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39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome



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Ok, bit too close!

Can you back up a bit with that so we can see more of the harness?

By the way, I think the lever and bezel on that switch is maybe 64 Pontiac. If you look at your other levers they should have a little step in them, not a straight line like that one. Easy to change though, they fit from any of those switches.

Your switch should have two connectors that could plug in to each other. (They don't on the actual installation but they are made that they could.)

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The open ended single connector (black and white wire) is rear speaker.

As you will have figured, white triple connector plugs into harness going to reverb box.

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Hopefully this will be better.

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66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

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Good, yup, and is there also one that plugs in to there?

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Thats all i got!



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39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome



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So that switch has no connector like the left one in this picture?

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What I've got is a cut off blue wire leading into the switch, a cut off blue wire of the same colour at the three pin connecter you saw,  a cut off black wire with white stripe leading into the switch a black wire with green stripe leading from the connector to the switch and a black wire with a home made spade connecter comming from the three pin connector.  I assume that is a ground.

I will attempt to take a picture of this.

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38 Willys pickup electric powered project

39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome



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Ah, ok. Do you have a black plastic connector body like the one I have pictured that you can do a repair (i.e. add the missing connection) ?

If not, I can check, I may have some spare parts.

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I'll have to look in my parts cars.  I think so.

I'll let you know tomorrow.   



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38 Willys pickup electric powered project

39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome



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I just checked, a rear speaker switch harness has the parts you need, you'll just have to do some crimping and buy some of those OEM terminals if you don't have any. Easy to find, NAPA is one common source for them.

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Perfect! I have to admit though that even if I get it put on I have no idea what plugs into what except the part that actually plugs into the reverb unit. I assume one plugs into  the radio output plug (probaby the one I don't have) and one plugs into the front speaker.??



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38 Willys pickup electric powered project

39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome



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I was going to detail it when you were working on it, but since you asked, it's pretty simple.

Once you have the harness ready for the reverb switch:


-Unplug the connector from the existing radio.

-Plug that connector into the female connector on the reverb harness (the connector that your's is missing)

-Plug the male connector harness into the radio where the other one was that you just removed.

-Plug in the rear speaker wire to the single white connector (black wire w/white stripe in my picture.)

-Plug in the front speaker (green and black with green stripe.)

-Plug in triple white connector (red,black,green wires) that run to reverb box you mounted in the trunk.

When working correctly, you use your reverb switch for one of three options from left to right, 1) Off, which is front speaker only on normal 2) Reverb which is both speakers on reverb 3) R which is rear speaker only on normal.

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Yes there is, I don't know what my clutch needs to make it work properly in my 66 4 speed conversion!!! (But I think Dave might have nailed it with the ball stud in the bellhousing being wrong)

Correct, you will not have a speaker switch any more. If you ever see a Pontiac with a speaker switch AND a reverb switch you know one of those two switches has been added and it's likely the reverb. It would take some fancy wiring to make them both work anyway.

And as a side note, in my original 66 I bought when I was 18, the black automatic car, I joined the wires together for front and rear anyway. I didn't like the fact that after I installed the reverb I had to have the reverb on to have both speakers on at the same time. That way I just had a choice of reverb or normal with both speakers always being on which suited me fine.

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Don't know if this will help or come out bg enough to see clearly

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That looks plenty clear.  Between you and carl's  resources and advice my car will sound like an echo chamber.  My head already does!



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38 Willys pickup electric powered project

39 Buick (327 with 700 r4)

66 Grande Parisienne 396 with AC (built October 26 1965)

66 Beaumont 4 door hardtop

69 Chevy CST pickup

1976 GMC 23'  motorhome

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