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Looking for 12 bolt 3 series posi carrier


I've got a 69 12 bolt diff, with stamping EM, and according to the 69 differential page in the parts book equates to a 3.07:1 12 bolt open.   While I have a couple 2 series carriers in the garage, I'm now looking for a 3 series carrier.   From the research I did some time back the carrier would have casting # EDB 30140 PM1 (I'm not sure about the PM1 part), which would be good for 3.07, 3.31, 3.55 & 3.73 gear sets.    I've seen this debated before, but the page shows units with 3.07 gears being 12 bolts, and 3.08 gears being 10 bolts.



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1969 A body 12 bolt posi rear differential

   
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Date Listed23-Nov-13
Last Edited13-Dec-13
Price$1,000.00
AddressCalgary, AB T2J 6H9, Canada 
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GM 12 bolt posi. 68-72 A body. Casting number 3959038 late 1969, series 3 Eaton posi, has 4.11 Strange/US Gear ring and pinion. No brakes. Very good condition. Originally from 1969 Canadian built Oldsmobile 442. With 3.08:1 according to the code stamped into the housing. Chevelle, Skylark, Cutlass, Lemans, Buick GS, 442, GTO
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Thanks Carl.  Unfortunately I'm working with a B-body, and don't require the whole differential, just the carrier.   I don't even require the inner workings, as I have new spider gears & clutch pack, etc.



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B-body and A-body  different?    never heard that before   



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http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-CHEVY-12-BOLT-CAR-OPEN-CARRIER-REBUILT-3-SERIES-/191001197885    

 

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 I thought a 12 bolt  e.g. Impala Chevelle Nova would interchange  amazing



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The posi units and gears are interchangeable but the Impala, Chevelle Nova housings are all different. Even the truck posi units work but the truck pinion bearing is smaller. It's common to use a ring gear spacer to use 3 series gears on a 2 series carrier.

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Maybe hes a numbers guy and wants only a B-body carrier?   pretty hard to see after cover is on    I do know the housing are different  



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427carl wrote:

Maybe hes a numbers guy and wants only a B-body carrier?   pretty hard to see after cover is on    I do know the housing are different  


I know, I was just trying to up my post count!!

 

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Be carefull...    they do disappear.... not to everyone though....



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I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from, but an a-body differential housing is different than a b-body differential housing, even though the gear carriers are shared between them.   However, an 'open' gear carrier is different than a 'limited slip' or 'posi' housing, and there a 2, 3 & 4 series carriers.

So, what I'm looking for is a bare 12 bolt 3 series posi gear carrier, casting number EDB 30140 PM1.     I hope this clears up the confusion.



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Axle TypeCasting NumberSeriesGearing
10 bolt 8.2"ED3211822.73:1 & down
10 bolt 8.2"EDB3011633.08:1 & up
    
10 bolt 8.5"410409N22.56:1 & down
10 bolt 8.5"410408N32.73:1 & up
    
12 boltED320882wn
12 bolt30140PM133.08:1 to 3.73:1
12 boltEDB3017443.90:1 & u

10 bolt 8.2"ED3211822.73:1 & down10 bolt 8.2"EDB3011633.08:1 & up10 bolt 8.5"410409N22.56:1 & down10 bolt 8.5"410408N32.73:1 & up12 boltED3208822.73:1 & down12 bolt30140PM133.08:1 to 3.73:112 boltEDB3017443.90:1 & up

 

http://www.novaresource.org/axle.htm



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fixed the chart..couldn't do that from the ipad



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Somebody's gotta have one of these kicking around somewhere.



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Oh shoot, I forgot about this thread. I used to have one of those and meant to look.

I can try to check over the holidays.

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Somebody's gotta have one of these kicking around somewhere.


 If or when you find one, are you going to set it up yourself or have someone do it? 



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This is what Clint is looking for, the elusive ED-30140PM1

Old picture of one I did way back. ebay item from Tonawanda NY. Drove over to pick it up. included the housing as well. $400.

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Another option is you could always go with a new Eaton unit. Truthfully, if numbers didn't matter I think I'd spend the couple of hundred more up front. Rebuilding these will cost at least $200 with new spiders, bushing washers, springs and clutches.

The new Eaton is said to be far more robust in the clutches.

Summit racing

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I bought that complete 65 12 posi last fall,  never had the cover off yet? 



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1965CS wrote:
seventy2plus2 wrote:

Somebody's gotta have one of these kicking around somewhere.


 If or when you find one, are you going to set it up yourself or have someone do it? 


I'll have to get someone to set it up.   I've got all the guts for the posi unit, and it should be as simple as putting the guts in the posi carrier, bolting the ring gear onto the posi carrier, putting the posi carrier in the housing and checking the backlash.   Probably simple for someone who knows what they're doing, but way out of my league.



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seventy2plus2 wrote:

I've got a 69 12 bolt diff, with stamping EM, and according to the 69 differential page in the parts book equates to a 3.07:1 12 bolt open.   While I have a couple 2 series carriers in the garage, I'm now looking for a 3 series carrier.   From the research I did some time back the carrier would have casting # EDB 30140 PM1 (I'm not sure about the PM1 part), which would be good for 3.07, 3.31, 3.55 & 3.73 gear sets.    I've seen this debated before, but the page shows units with 3.07 gears being 12 bolts, and 3.08 gears being 10 bolts.





Sorry Clint, I thought I might have but all I could find was 2 bare 3 series carriers for non-posi.

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I asked Peter at Old Gold.ca    and he has what you want but not for sale    He has another..... but its not "matching numbers"  nono

 

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Also have a new still in the box Auburn carrier . $490.00 delivered to your door

From: PETER LERETTE <pniresto@nbnet.nb.ca>

Subject: RE: Hows your rears???

Date: 29 December, 2013 2:55:32 PM EST

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I do have one  but its not for sale

 

 

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Looking for 12 bolt 3 series posi carrier

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I've got a 69 12 bolt diff, with stamping EM, and according to the 69 differential page in the parts book equates to a 3.07:1 12 bolt open.   While I have a couple 2 series carriers in the garage, I'm now looking for a 3 series carrier.   From the research I did some time back the carrier would have casting # EDB 30140 PM1 (I'm not sure about the PM1 part), which would be good for 3.07, 3.31, 3.55 & 3.73 gear sets.    I've seen this debated before, but the page shows units with 3.07 gears being 12 bolts, and 3.08 gears being 10 bolts.

 

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