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jmont64 wrote:
Because it is Warranty is for life. Does not matter how long i have had it as long as i do not loose my original bill
they give me a new one each time so i'm getting a good one for free and it is worth it to see the look on their face when i take it in..
every 4-5 years. They only asked once what it was in and wanted to check the charging system and when i said i needed a battery in it to show them 
they just said "Oh" brought it back anyway cause i knew my system was charging perfectly and  now they just hook some new tester up and can tell
right away when there is a dead cell.
does not matter 

Dan, why in earth's name would you go through all that trouble to keep a warranty for a Canadian Tire battery that you've had for 40 years. Do you like them that much? AC Delco batteries aren't a thousand dollars last time I checked, closer to around a hundred I think. Sure a lot of horsing around for a hundred dollars and an old battery. I think batteries are a bargain and are better than they ever have been. 

 

 



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Johnny Ringo wrote:

.....just put the charger on it on low and let it take juice, it should be fine, a 10 amp trickle will work fine.




The problem is, as soon as I hook the 6 amp charger up, the needle pegs on max and the charger buzzes real loud. I'm sure it would kill the charger if I left it hooked up.

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Hook it in series with another battery   and hook charger to that  it will trickle the wimp battery    Then take it to work and get a new one   



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It shows about .62 of a volt.

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I have a used battery here, a few years old that I haven't had in a car for a bit. It's a bit on the low side, about 12.32 volts on the tester. I decided it might be a good one to hook up to the stone dead battery, in case it ruins it. I hooked up a pair of booster cables between the two, and there was a pretty good spark, I mean quite evident. I left it hooked up for about 5 seconds at the most, unhooked, tested the battery that started at 12.32 and it was already down to 12.00 volts. There's clearly something wrong with the dead battery, it creates a serious draw on the good battery.

I'm not going to play around any more and chance ruining my charger or any known good battery. I'll take it with me to work, tell the guys who do the GM warranty claims what happened and take it from there. If they cover me, great, if not, it's not the end of the world.

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I'm not going to play around any more and chance ruining my charger or any known good battery.

I'll take it with me to work, tell the guys who do the GM warranty claims what happened and take it from there. If they cover me, great, if not, it's not the end of the world.

          Its all in the wording    Tell them it was OK  (truth) and then it was not (truth)  Let them make the decision......wink



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Carl Stevenson wrote:


 I'm not going to play around any more and chance ruining my charger or any known good battery. I'll take it with me to work, tell the guys who do the GM warranty claims what happened and take it from there. If they cover me, great, if not, it's not the end of the world.

 Bingo!



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The battery didn't freeze, did it? That would be your only issue for warranty. They kind of frown upon those swelled out sides. If not you should be good.



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JC2+2 wrote:

The battery didn't freeze, did it? That would be your only issue for warranty. They kind of frown upon those swelled out sides. If not you should be good.

          he bought it from himself    he will look after it     right Carl?  



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JC2+2 wrote:

The battery didn't freeze, did it? That would be your only issue for warranty. They kind of frown upon those swelled out sides. If not you should be good.

          he bought it from himself    he will look after it     right Carl?  

 What, swap it out with his boss's?



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JC2+2 wrote:

The battery didn't freeze, did it? That would be your only issue for warranty. They kind of frown upon those swelled out sides. If not you should be good.




No, no worries there. It's in my garage that sees no frost in the winter.

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it sounds like it has a dead short and you will only blow something up trying to charge it

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That's my thought too. Pretty violent needle movement when I hook up my trickle charger, it slams the needle at max and hums/buzzes like mad.

I just don't understand how or why that happens because the key stayed on.

Worst of it is, they key stayed on AND the battery stayed hooked up. Both are a no-no in my attached garage if I'm not in there working. I am super careful with that but somehow I let my guard down on this one.

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I haven't seen any comments about isolating the battery from the vehicle and try to recharge in a warm environment.

Best idea, WARRANTY. It won't hurt you.

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Yes, it is unhooked and in my garage. The temp in there was about plus 10 when I tried the charger on it.

As long as I remember I'll take it to work with me and see if there is warranty available, but I certainly intend to tell them what happened.

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If the battery is dead, I would think you'd be able to check the resistance of battery - it there's a dead short, you should see no resistance... Do you have a multi-meter? A battery tester would tell you if there is an internal short as well.



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Good point, yes, I have a multi meter. I'll have to try that.

It's still showing about .70 of a volt though.

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My mulitimeter has a 9 Volt battery for testing resistance - that should overpower the 0.7 volts from the car battery. Worth a try.
But, I suspect the fact that there's any voltage from the battery suggests it's not a dead short...

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Get a battery tender and put it on it. I use one all the time it will slow charge it and maintain the charge.

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I wouldn't fool around with the thing, I'd just return it ... but that's me.





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2 days in a row I forgot to bring it in to work with me...

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

2 days in a row I forgot to bring it in to work with me...

 nono    age will do it   



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Bit of an update-

On Tuesday afternoon I got brave and decided to try it here at home. I took a known good battery, and hooked up booster cables to the bad one. It did draw the good one down a bit on the volt meter, just about 12.00 volts even. I hooked up the trickle charger, needle pegged to max and the charger hummed. Left it about 5 seconds, unhooked, waited a bit, hooked charger again, same result, 5 seconds, unhook, did this about 8-10 times and finally I saw the needle flicker a bit. Kept at it, eventually the needle came down into the green area and settled off at about 2-3 amps.

I charged it about 4 hours, unhooked the charger and the "bridge battery" for over an hour, tested and it was about 12. 20 volts. Some progress. Let it sit two days, tested now, 11.90 volts. I'll try charging it tomorrow for about 6-8 hours and if it won't come up now, I'll take it in, tell them the story and explain it won't take and hold a charge. I think it's about a year or so old.

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Hey Carl, what happened with the battery?

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Junk, I couldn't get it to take or hold a charge at all.

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