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broken screw - differential pinion shaft lock


Gang, I was looking to remove the axle shafts from a 12 bolt diff, so after popping off the back cover and draining the oil, I removed the bolt that holds the pinion shaft in place.   The bolt came out, but the pin part of it stayed in the carrier, so the pinion shaft won't come out.    I remember seeing a post where this happened to someone else a couple years ago, but I can't find that post.     I see someone makes a kit with drill bits an easy outs to remove the screw, but I'd like to find the post to see what that member did.   Any help is appreciated.



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some/most of them, i've been able to wind them out with a sharp point awl, or if it's broke right at the thread, a small tip magnet might fish it out. brake clean the oil from the hole.



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Thanks guys, I think the awl or magnet ideas are worth a try.



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Got it out.  I wanted to try the magnet idea, but couldn't find the skinny magnet I used to have.   I'm not sure it would have worked, as I figured there was still some thread left on the broken portion.     My buddy drilled out a 5/16" bolt with a 1/8" diameter hole through it and we put in in the housing (I'll call that the guide bolt, not shown).   I then sent a 7/32" bit through the guide bolt, into the broken portion of the screw.   I pulled out the guide bolt, washed out the debris with brake-clean, and pounded in a spiral easy-out.  It didn't work, as I figured I hadn't drilled deep enough.  Since there was now a hole in the broken portion, I didn't need the guide bolt again, and I just drilled deeper.   I figured the hole in the broken portion was now about 1/4" deep, and pounded in the spiral easy out again.   Turned it real slow and steady, and eventually the broken portion was out.  It had about 1 thread left on it, so a magnet would have never pulled it out.     

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Congrats Clint ! Good you got it out ...



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Thanks Pascal, now I have to find a new one.  I've got an old GM # that I hope still works.



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seventy2plus2 wrote:

Thanks Pascal, now I have to find a new one.  I've got an old GM # that I hope still works.


 Clint..the threaded portion of the hole should be cleaned out before you put in a new pin....... run a tap through.....I got a bunch if you need one.

George



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I know it's too late to help since the job is done, but for future a reverse drill bit can work too. As you drill, it spins the broken bolt out (usually only one thread left on the bolt). Just thought I'd add. And by the way good job removing it your way.



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Glad you recovered it without much trouble.

A car guy at work once called that differential fastener "The bolt of Death".



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Fortunately, the differential is out of the car and on a set of sawhorses, as I'd hate to have been doing this laying on the ground under the car.



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cdnpont wrote:

Glad you recovered it without much trouble.

A car guy at work once called that differential fastener "The bolt of Death".





Years ago at our dealership someone instigated a rule that any time that bolt was removed in a diff, it went in the garbage and a new bolt was put in.

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You guys are good, sounds like a post for tricks of the trade for future reference? Glad you got it out and I will be putting a new one in my 8.8

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I bought a new bolt today, p/n 25872305 (superceded 14056196) as original p/n 472546 is discontinued (still available on ebay though).   The new bolt has a smaller head which isn't a concern, but it's 1/4" shorter than the original.   Original was 2" long (not counting the head).   Any comments?



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Should be fine, that's the one we've been selling at work for a few years now.

You could just check to see that it sticks far enough into the pin.

I like the smaller head idea, less chance of overtightening it.

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The new bolt will just go through the shaft, not through it with 1/4" extending into the other side of the carrier.  There was a guy on ebay selling a set of multiple 472546's so I got a little silly and bought them (keep in mind I have 4 cars that use them).

I know it'll take a little time for them to get to me, but I've got other work to do on the differential including blasting and painting the brake backing plates, etc.    If I get real anxious, I'll install the 25872305 screw, otherwise I can return it and get my $10 back.     



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