seat belts

2 65 ponchos · Veteran Member

seat belts

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Silly question but are you sure the anchors aren't already there? I thought for 65 all anchors were in place on the GM's.

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

They should be there.

2 65 ponchos · Veteran Member

My 65 has no anchor locations, at least none that i can find

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I'll go over to one of the 65s we have and photo the anchor spots.

2 65 ponchos · Veteran Member

Ok, Thanks.

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Geez i never thought to look that close before. Turns out both of the 65 Convertibles we have have had the interiors stripped right out of them and guess what, there is no sign of where the seatbelts would have been anchored. I sat there for about 15 minutes trying to figure where they would have put them based on bolt holes and sturdy parts of the body but I have to confess i don't know either. Other gurus please chip in here!

NOS · Poncho Master!

2 65 ponchos wrote:
I want to install lap seat belts in the back seat of my 65 Parisienne Convt. I am not sure how to do this. Would like to know location to drill holes to anchor them.

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427carl · A Poncho Legend!

I just fastened mine to my roll bar

luppy · Addicted!

2 65 ponchos

On my 66 2dr Hardtop the attached picture shows the bolts that I left in the floor pan when I did the primer. They are the green spots that show in the back seat area.

Hope this helps.

Gary history of 1966 pontiac 219.jpg

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Don't think it will help. The convertible back seat area is quite different than the hardtop. There are no obvious anchors. Here is a pic I took this morning of the good cars back seat area.

Might have been more apparent if the car hadn't been gutted so thoroughly.

65 back seat.jpg

luppy · Addicted!

Hello Again

Have another view from the underside that may help. Have circled the mount plates that are welded on the rear seat pan. The pan doesn't look to much different to me.

Gary history of 1966 pontiac 083.jpg

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Not withstanding the seat belt issue that is the nicest looking underneath of a 66 I have ever seen. Beauty! Hope its on the road soon!

luppy · Addicted!

Hi Ken

Thank you very much for the compliment on the underside of my 66. The car is on the road now and plan on having it in the Pacific Performance Pontiac Car Club show on Sunday the 8th of June at the Casino in Langley, B.C.

Thanks again for the good thought, special from you.

Gary

2 65 ponchos · Veteran Member

Thanks guys, i think i can figure out where to anchor them from the picture of your 66. I guess 66 was the first year for anchors in the rear seat. I want to be able to take my Grandchildren for rides and my daughter will not allow it without seatbelts, otherwise i wouldnt bother.

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I think that must be the case but with the underside pics to guide you you should be able to come up with something. Not too sure how great lap belts alone are in a collision but i guess they are better than nothing especially with no locking seat backs back in those years. Good luck and I hope you all enjoy the ride!

Greaser · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

66 Grande guy wrote:
I think that must be the case but with the underside pics to guide you you should be able to come up with something. Not too sure how great lap belts alone are in a collision but i guess they are better than nothing especially with no locking seat backs back in those years. Good luck and I hope you all enjoy the ride!

From what I've read lap belts have been responsible for some bad spinal damage in the back seat of some collisions.

I had a 70 full size Chevy that had shoulder belts in the back seat...apparently that was a rare option.....

How much damage/trouble would it be to put shoulder belts in the back of an old Poncho from the 60's?

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Greaser wrote:
66 Grande guy wrote:
I think that must be the case but with the underside pics to guide you you should be able to come up with something. Not too sure how great lap belts alone are in a collision but i guess they are better than nothing especially with no locking seat backs back in those years. Good luck and I hope you all enjoy the ride!
From what I've read lap belts have been responsible for some bad spinal damage in the back seat of some collisions.
I had a 70 full size Chevy that had shoulder belts in the back seat...apparently that was a rare option.....
How much damage/trouble would it be to put shoulder belts in the back of an old Poncho from the 60's?

Thinking about lap belt always reminds me of a Bill Cosby quote from his 200 mph monologue: "The only thing seat (Lap) belts are good for is so the ambulance driver can find the body!" Still i always buckle mine up and I was actually stopped once in Fort Mcmurray for a seat belt check. The cop came up and laughed and said" I guess this thing is to old to have seatbelts eh?" I told him, "No they had em and I'm wearing it" even though I had to hoist my gut out of the way so he could see it!

If there is a tidy way to install shoulder harnesses I hope somebody here would share it. For Convertibles it would be especially challenging as you'd have to use low mounting points.

Leo2+2 · Guru

66 Grande guy wrote:
Greaser wrote:
66 Grande guy wrote:
I think that must be the case but with the underside pics to guide you you should be able to come up with something. Not too sure how great lap belts alone are in a collision but i guess they are better than nothing especially with no locking seat backs back in those years. Good luck and I hope you all enjoy the ride!
From what I've read lap belts have been responsible for some bad spinal damage in the back seat of some collisions.
I had a 70 full size Chevy that had shoulder belts in the back seat...apparently that was a rare option.....
How much damage/trouble would it be to put shoulder belts in the back of an old Poncho from the 60's?
Thinking about lap belt always reminds me of a Bill Cosby quote from his 200 mph monologue: "The only thing seat (Lap) belts are good for is so the ambulance driver can find the body!" Still i always buckle mine up and I was actually stopped once in Fort Mcmurray for a seat belt check. The cop came up and laughed and said" I guess this thing is to old to have seatbelts eh?" I told him, "No they had em and I'm wearing it" even though I had to hoist my gut out of the way so he could see it!
If there is a tidy way to install shoulder harnesses I hope somebody here would share it. For Convertibles it would be especially challenging as you'd have to use low mounting points.

Someone I met at a car show has a 69 Bonneville convertible with rear shoulder belts. Next time I see him I'll ask him and if lucky, I'll take a look myself. I remember them coming out from the side as opposed to the top of the seatback.

boo boo · Veteran Member

Try these guys if you can't find anything local

Morris Classic Concepts
Greer, SC USA
1-866-628-8746
Mon-Fri 9am-5pm, Pacific Time

They make aftermarket front and rear shoulder belts for A-body cars - maybe B also?

-- Edited by boo boo on Saturday 20th of December 2014 09:26:48 PM

beaumontguru · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

1965 will NOT have rear seatbelt holes. i believe 1967 was the first year for factory rear belts. Possibly 66, but for sure 67.

Indian · Guru

For what I understand in my research years ago, theear center optional bets were attached using the existing bolts from the two existing inner belts.I dont think you'll find too many rear seat belts in any GM prior to 67 in Canada.