?? On LS engines in Ont.

hawkeye5766 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

RE: ?? On LS engines in Ont.

GrtDanes · Poncho Master!

Sounds good and my wife can clean your house for a few scrapes from the table
every nite.

hawkeye5766 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Yup, she just has to be faster than the rats. biggrin

graymond · Addicted!

Aircare just went away in BC. They were finding that the fail rates were half of what they were 4 years ago. They did sniffer tests on everything newer than 1958.

The new cars are so efficient that the powers that be determined Aircare was a success and ended it.

First time I insured the Acadian without having to get it tested. That usually involved a day of getting it to run like crap so it passed and then putting it back the way it was.

So far, the powers that be have left us alone for emission equipment. Hopefully it stays that way.

I had heard they were concentrating on off road diesel equipment, stationary and otherwise as well as transports.

ray

dualquadpete · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

73SC wrote:
GrtDanes wrote:
So if I buy a new LS im good to go except the 8's for 1.Sounds like a deal to me.
I would check the regulation myself, I disagree with Pete's interpretation. Regulation 361/98 Environmental Protection Act.
The Act takes the position that a crate engine is not intended to be roadworthy in which case no emission equipment is needed. If it is to be used on the road then it becomes a different story imo.

This is a "REAL" grey area on crate engines, the way I read it, it says "more or less" that crate engines are "EXEMPT" as they never were put in a car or truck originally, therefore they have no Emm. equipment on record, but one that was removed from a vehicle & re-used has a history of what's required??? Doesn't make sense but then we are talking "GOV" here aren't we!!!!

GrtDanes · Poncho Master!

I talked to this drive clean thing here in Ont.They say I don't need the test anything pre 88.Still waiting to hear bk from the MTO
on the rest of it.

dualquadpete · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

That is correct, you 'don't need a Emm. test? BUT if you get pulled over in a roadside check that's where you get "NAILED" when they check the engine #'s Pete

GrtDanes · Poncho Master!

Now im really confused.Just got off the phone with the MTO.Told them plans,and
the guy says if the drive clean says I don't need the test,then im safe.If I did get
pulled over by mto I should still have no problems with the newer engine as is.Now who's wright?

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

The Roadside guys have a reputation of flying by the seat of their pants BUT I just realised you are talking about using the LS in a 60's vehicle. Best policy is get written confirmation from that MTO staff you just spoke with. I spent some time today reading the legislation and the bottom line on this is that your car would have to meet the emission standards set for 1980 if it were called in for inspection. There would have to be reasonable cause for inspection such as smoking engine for over 15 seconds for example. Although not required by law on a crate engine, without pollution control equipment such as catalytic converters, AIR and EGR even the newest crate engine would likely not meet the 1980 standards.

-- Edited by 73SC on Thursday 5th of February 2015 05:32:33 PM

natehirji · Veteran Member

so in ontario if the car is older than 84 you don't have to do emissions. however with the LS engines, you do need a cat for your o2 sensors otherwise your computer will read an error. I was thinking about putting a LS engine in my car but i than realized its a lot of wiring work plus i can just put a 350 with a couple of turbos and get around the same amount of power.