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RE: 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 Convertible Barn find - But this one a 4-speed


Turns out the last thing I need to complete this restoration (as far as I know!) is rear quarter glass, which is specific to the 1969 convertible.  

It doesn't interchange with the coupe or with 1970, and needs to be clear, not tinted.  Any leads would be greatly appreciated!

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Dave, from my December 1972 Canadian Pontiac parts book, the rear quarter glass is the same 1969 - 1970 convertibles, but different than hardtops.

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8746536   8746537  1969-70/ALL/-37 - CLEAR     (2 dr hdtp)

8746540   8746541  1969-70/ALL/-67 - CLEAR     (convertible)

Are you looking for a particular etching?  DCL, LOF?

Being a Canadian car I'd presume they'd be DCL.



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I'd likely prefer DCL (or even LOF) if I could get it... date coded too! But I'm willing to take blank if it's all I can find, too!

I'm told that 1970 incorporated a revised regulator design, but maybe that was the fronts!

In any event, I think we agree that I need the 540 and 541 parts!



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davepl wrote:

I'd likely prefer DCL (or even LOF) if I could get it... date coded too! But I'm willing to take blank if it's all I can find, too!

I'm told that 1970 incorporated a revised regulator design, but maybe that was the fronts!

In any event, I think we agree that I need the 540 and 541 parts!


 It's quie possible that the regulator design changed but the glass remained the same?

But going by memory, I would agree that it's only the fronts that changed as you mentioned.



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4SPEED427 wrote:
davepl wrote:

I'd likely prefer DCL (or even LOF) if I could get it... date coded too! But I'm willing to take blank if it's all I can find, too!

I'm told that 1970 incorporated a revised regulator design, but maybe that was the fronts!

In any event, I think we agree that I need the 540 and 541 parts!


 It's quie possible that the regulator design changed but the glass remained the same?

But going by memory, I would agree that it's only the fronts that changed as you mentioned.


 The door regulators are different 1969 to 1970.



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1969 Pontiac Paresiane | Classic Cars | Saskatoon | Kijiji

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Thanks, I reached out! Since I needed rear quarters this car would have been handy about 2 years ago!

I see it's got a Grande Parisienne grille, nice choice

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Now that I think about it, the private yard where I got 2 trunk lids for you had 2 x 1969 Parisienne convertibles. Unfortunately I wore out my welcome a couple years after getting the deck lids.

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You know how much I want to save this one.

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Dave, No promises but I may have a line on 69 vert 1/4 glass but I have to verify this weekend.

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We are just having trouble remembering what was actually in that trunk 8 years ago.



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Wow, let me know what you find!

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All my glass is at the back of the lofts for safety.

So, this is what I found after 3 hours of loft digging.

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Definitely different than the coupe glass !

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No extra dividers available no

If you want these, we will have to figure out a way to get them out there.

I'm thinking that these came to me through this site and like the rear valence I sent to Florida, all money should go to this site.

How about a $200 site donation before shipping to help Todd keep this forum going ?

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That certainly works for me! Can you confirm they are clear and not tinted?

Let me know how/where to make the donation, and how to cover your shipping costs, and I'll get it taken care of! You can email me at davepl@davepl.com if you want to connect more directly!


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Safety Flow-Lite is clear.

Safety Soft-Ray is tinted.

Just click below for the link to donate for Canadian Poncho.

Todd will let me know when he receives the $200.00

I will send you an email soon.

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Thanks so much for solving this problem for me! Donation complete!


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Does anyone know how to decode the dates on this set? AE-69 but I can't figure out the AE part!

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There was a post years ago about the date codes for glass.

May be linked with my spring 2020 stuff.



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Found what you need on this page from 11 years ago !

69 B-body convertible quarter glass - Canadian Poncho (activeboard.com)



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This is the original glass code of Mark's 69 Convertible.

March 14th 1969 Build

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That's perfect! Car was built in April!

 



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Packing day,

Plywood box, wood frame, bubble wrap, packing paper and all wrapped in carboard.

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Now to figue out who the shipper will be.

 



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I've never seen DCL glass on a GM car before, maybe a Canadian supplier. So I can't decode completely like I can with PPG or LOF but I do know the following:
1... if Soft Ray is not present on the stencil then you have clear glass
2...AS-2 on the left just means other than a windshield (side or rear glass), windshields say AS-1
3...AD-69 is a date code but each company had their own method. This one doesn't conform to a either the PPG or LOF system. It appears closer to the LOF dating system (first character is a letter for the month, second is the letter for the year and two numbers are the plant code) but it can't be since there is no D in the year code system. The 69 could be a year or it could be a coincidental plant code.
4...M-13 is the specific application code meaning for example left side convertible quarter window on 69 B body but I don't actually know these codes by heart.
5...interestingly there should be a DOT 15 under the M-13. It's absence usually means 68 or older model year (this DOT code was used starting in the 69 model year) but perhaps that was not the case in Canadian built cars?

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The absence of DOT doesn't surprise me for Canadian glass since the DOT is a US org. I'm going to date-code the door glass to be the same as the rear quarters, so at least it'll be consistent, if not correct

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