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RE: I got something and I believe it's pretty rare................1969 2+2 427 TH400 and options


One step at a time biggrin

The colour looks great !



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Also repaired the original grills and swapped the front bumper for a straighter one. No beauty queen, but shes got all her teeth.



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She's a beauty queen, maybe not by world standards but by true Canadian Pontiac lovers.

I've had a few people comment about the paint chips and little dings on my car. I politely acknowledge their comments but in my head I'm thinking "these aren't REAL car people."

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I love this car.



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Don't forget, Jerl has that 69 that he is parting out.

Lots of odds and ends there.

How is your front valance ?

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Interesting that it has 2 rear speakers. What radio did it come with?  I remember it being an 8-track car.

Also FYI - I have a couple of those speaker grilles NOS.



-- Edited by seventy2plus2 on Thursday 16th of April 2020 07:56:29 PM

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On American fullsize Pontiacs ordering a Stereo 8 track and/or a stereo radio netted you two rear speakers (and a front one on the dash). Without an 8 track an AM or AM/FM mono radio netted you only one front speaker with a single rear speaker optional. Being a Canadian car maybe it used the chevy type speaker system where a stereo 8 track and/or stereo radio netted you two front (kick panel) and two rear speakers. My 69 Firebird is like that it came through with an 8 track so it has chevy spec front kick panel speakers and two rear speakers even though the radio and 8 track are Pontiac units.

I just reread the whole thread, amazing work being done. Can you imagine the cost of that kind of metal work at a body shop!

I noticed at the beginning you mentioned it had a power seat, which according to the factory ordering literature (sales album and accessorizor) wasn't offered with bucket seat. It also wasn't offered with a bench and a four speed (I guess the extra travel would interfere with the shifter?

 

Here are the factory chalk markings on my two tone two plus two (that's a mouthful!).  Palladium on top and Burgundy on the bottom. 

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According to the VVS, there was no power seat. I took the previous owners word that it had it. When I got it home it took a week of monkeying around to get the doors to open and close.

With regards to the speakers the wiring looks factory. The car was originally delivered with AM/FM and console mounted 8track. The kick panels are exactly the same as the ones that were in my Parisienne with AM. No speakers. The radio I pulled from the car looks identical to an AM radio I have. So either I have no idea how to verify the AM/FM or the radio was swapped out early in the cars life.

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1935 Chev 3 Window Std Coupe

1957 Chev 2dr 

1967 Mustang Convertible

1969 Firebird 350HO Convertible

1969 Camaro X11-V8

1969 2+2 was a 396

1969 2+2 427

1978 Chev ShortBox StepSide 4x4

1980 Harley FXWG

1986 CJ7 Jeep

 



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Back to the rear speakers, does the stock wiring just go from from one to the other?

As I've added 8 tracks to both my 70 2+2's, I've contemplated adding the 2nd rear speaker. I can easily add another speaker grille to my hdtp, and I also have a spare one to add for the convertible. (69 & 70 convertibles have the speaker grille in the right rear armrest)

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Sounds like Canadian big Pontiac cars had the American style set up for speakers (no kick panel speakers).

When A car had two rear speakers they just used a jumper wire to connect the left rear speaker to the right rear (when single rear speaker was installed it was always on the right) resulting in an in series connection. The schematic is the jumper harness plugs into both rear speakers but the end of that harness on the right speaker has a "bisexual" connector so it plugs into both the right speaker and to the connector of the harness coming from the dashboard. Always a good idea to have two rear speakers, I find with a single rear speaker you have to put the fader bezel almost completely to the rear to get a balanced front to rear sound. Convertibles and wagons were the exception in that most did not come with two rear speakers even if the car had stereo radio and/or 8 track.


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image4.jpegimage3.jpegimage2.jpegimage1.jpegFinally got some updated pics from the bodyshop - haven't been in person, so if anyone is qualified to judge bodywork by photo, chime in!

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There's a lot of cars in that photo! There's the red 2+2, my blue 2+2, a Parisienne trunk, some Catalina quarters, and so on!

Can someone with a convertible confirm they still have the "spare tire dent" in the floor of the trunk even though the have and use a different hold down?



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davepl wrote:

Can someone with a convertible confirm they still have the "spare tire dent" in the floor of the trunk even though the have and use a different hold down?



-- Edited by davepl on Sunday 2nd of August 2020 09:58:03 PM


I'll see if I can take a look at my 70.  It's got a bunch of stuff in the trunk so it might take me a while. 



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69 CP rags have the dent. Should have a drain hole and plug?

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Looking great !

My original trunk,

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Making good progress on the '69 Dave! Curious as to what was used for the replacement trunk floor...is that a repo floor for the '65-'70 Impala? From the photos it looks like they are doing nice work!

 



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Yes, without a doubt that looks like good work.



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