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What do you guys think? How about putting together a post to gather some info on Columns, Steering wheels and the like? Some good info that we could use to understand what wheels and columns would work in out cars. Try to decipher what differences, between the GM makes and models? Will a USA Pontiac column or wheel fit a CP? Is a Chevy column the same as CP?.

Keep is simple. Post, discuss, argue what you know, post photos, any links to info. And after hashing it out, I'll bring what we can use over to this first post below. 

I'll start it out simple with some basic stuff, numbers, info, dimensions, pictures, links etc. Make changes as we go along. If the year and model shown has nothing written and you have some info (or even have that column handy), then add to the thread with a photo, some parts numbers, the length, discussion, suggested corrections, etc. I'll take what I can find as far as numbers from the CP and chev MPC (Master Parts Catalog) and add the numbers in as I find the time. I only have a CP back to 59, the Chev only back to 65. There won't be much to start, but I'll scour the net at least for some images and links, and keep up with maintaining the thread.

I will add Chevy II, Chevelle, Acadian, Beaumont, Tempest, LeMans, GTO as I move forward.

Suggestions are welcome, do I need to add any more to the lists?

Good idea?

Cheers, Mark.

 

Legend; CV= Chevrolet, CP= Canadian Pontiac. CS=Column shift, FS=Floor shift. FW=Firewall.

             Bisc=Biscayne, Bel=Bel Air, Imp=Impala, Strat=Strato Chief, Laur=Laurentian Par=Parisienne, CS=Custom Sport

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Here is a list in no particular order of some CP site threads regarding columns, wheels, switches and couplings,

https://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t40450505/tilt-steering-columns-sadder-but-wiser/

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1959

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Rag joint xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 3765110, Cancel cam 3813945.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

Chevrolet part numbers not found. CP only 59.

  • No tilt in CP until 1963
  • Signal lever with knob shared 59 through 66, including 63-66 Tilt. Non tilt 63-66 different lever.
  • 59-62 shares same signal switch
  • 59-66 shares same cancel cam

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Impala, Parisienne,

Non tilt length xx". CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Rag joint xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 3765110, Cancel cam 3813945.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

45958144855_1e786fb6db_n.jpg 46116380174_1ecc90a699_n.jpg

Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt part number xxxxxxx, Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

 

1960

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Rag joint xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 3765110, Cancel cam 3813945.

 

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 45958144825_616d14333a_n.jpg46872575181_102900e303_n.jpg

1960 Base wheel looks to be shared between CV/CP

Impala, Parisienne,

Non tilt length xx". CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Rag joint xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 3765110, Cancel cam 3813945.

 

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 45958144795_932473c6fb_n.jpg46147742124_3808ac7aed_n.jpg

Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt part number xxxxxxx, Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

1960 USA Pontiac MPC , probably somewhat pertains to the 59 as well. Lots of info here.

 

 

1961

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Rag joint xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 3765110, Cancel cam 3813945.

 

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 45958144765_e4342dda67_n.jpg46147741944_9c3e799a11_n.jpg

Impala, Parisienne,

Non tilt length xx". CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Rag joint xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 3765110, Cancel cam 3813945.

 

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt part number xxxxxxx, Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

46147742034_7beb5014ef_n.jpg 45958144655_bbef8edccd_n.jpg

 

 1962

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Rag joint xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 3765110, Cancel cam 3813945.

 

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 46158280904_e6dec8bbe1_n.jpg46883171531_de0b5ca327_n.jpg46158581814_2cc69f254f_n.jpg45968949785_619897d271_n.jpg

Impala, SS, Parisienne,

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt part number xxxxxxx, Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

 

 1963

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 898197 (Non tilt) 1993624 (Tilt), Cancel cam 3813945(Non tilt), Tilt 3832618.

 

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

  • CP columns 63-70 use the same tilt lever.
  • 1963 first year for tilt in CP

 full 63.JPG

Impala, SS, Parisienne,

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 898197 (Non tilt) 1993624 (Tilt), Cancel cam 3813945(Non tilt), Tilt 3832618.

 

From Don, the 63 floor shift columns Chev and CP are the same except for the trim between the two.

 chev vs CP.JPG

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

Catalina, Star Chief, Bonneville, GP.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

 

 1964

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel 9740411(Aqua), Horn rim 9741000, Hub 3840112, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 898197 (Non tilt) 910821 (Tilt), Cancel cam 3813945(Non tilt), Tilt 3832618.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

  • No steering wheel part numbers interchange 64-66, even though base model horn ring 9741000 does 64-65.
  • 64/65 and 66 base models use horn hub 3840112
  • 64 Signal switch gets changed from 63

64 Bel Air, 64-66 9741000 horn ring, 3840112 horn hub,

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Impala, SS, Parisienne, Custom Sport.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel 9740411(Aqua), Horn rim 9741000, Cap ring 3858429, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch 898197 (Non tilt) 910821 (Tilt), Cancel cam 3813945(Non tilt), Tilt 3832618.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

  • The 64 upscale wheel has chrome dividers. 

64 Parisienne, Custom sport with Lucite sections?

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Catalina, Star Chief, Bonneville, GP.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

 

 1965

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel 5738214 (Aqua), Horn rim 9741000, Hub 3840112, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3856951. Carpet trim 3856953.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

 Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

  • Aqua steering wheel 5738214 shown crosses all models above. Multiple different part numbers for different colours, same style wheel for 64 base models but no pn match.

39865579963_81be38927c_n.jpg

 

Impala, SS, Parisienne, custom Sport.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel 5738191 (Black), Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3856951. Carpet trim 3856953.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

  • 65/66 Chev/CP tilt columns at a glance appear to share the same splined rag flange design as the USA Pont.
  • 65-66 Imp/Paris share the same style wheel. Part numbers match.

                                                               65-66 Imp Tilt shown,                                                                                                    65 Impala, 65/66 bare wheel 5738191 in black, 65/66 SS ring (no Impala script)

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1965 Bel Air/Bisc/Strato floor shift column shown disassembled,

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Catalina, Star Chief, Bonneville, GP.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 65 Impala/Parisienne tilt W/Impala tilt/signal knobs, Column base and FW plate,

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 1966

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim 9741000, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

66 Bel Air,

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Impala, SS, Caprice, Parisienne, 2+2, Grande Parisienne.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel 5738191 (Black), Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

Great link to a conversion to tilt using a USA column in a CP

  •   65-66 Imp/Paris share the same style wheel.

65-66 CP non tilt flange,

39885882593_1f8e0f13dd_n.jpg

 

Catalina, Star Chief, Bonneville, GP.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

  • USA Pontiac Tilt columns are slightly longer than Chev/CP, but unlike the CP, they have a sliding rag flange that can be adjusted up.

USA Flange shown,

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 1967

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length 34". Non tilt CS part number 7803773, FS 7803526. 3 speed standard 7803567. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3897651. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

  •  1967 was the first year for collapsible GM columns

Impala, SS, Caprice, Parisienne, 2+2, Grande Parisienne.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length 34". Non tilt CS part number 7803773, FS 7803526. CS Tilt 7803774, FS Tilt 7803527. 3 speed standard 7803567. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3897651. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

  • From early investigation, it's pretty well 100% certain that the 67/68 Chevrolet tilt will fit the CP. The column collars (Jacket) are completely different, the lever share the same type, but the end designs are different.

  15468351816_6b3e137dc8.jpg

   67 non tilt  floor shift,

 

 46778581892_9070b899ac.jpg39865579493_d50fc6f9a4.jpg

   67 Imp top, CP bottom,                                                                                                                             67 Imp,

 

Catalina, Star Chief, Bonneville, GP.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

1968

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length 34". Non tilt part number 7803773, FS 7803526. 3 speed standard 7803567. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3897651. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

Impala, SS, Caprice, Parisienne, 2+2, Grande Parisienne.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length 34". Non tilt CS part number 7803773, FS 7803526. CS Tilt 7803774, FS Tilt 7803527. 3 speed standard 7803567. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3897651. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

  • 68 shares the same column as 67 through all types. Lever styles differ Chev/CP.

 68 imp non,

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Catalina, Star Chief, Bonneville, GP.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 68 Cat Non,                                                                                                                 68 Bonny trim, unsure non/tilt,

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1969

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

Impala, SS, Caprice, Parisienne, 2+2, Grande Parisienne.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

1970

Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

Impala, Caprice, Parisienne, 2+2, Grande Parisienne.

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar low er xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

 

Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,

Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.

Steering wheel xxxxxxx, Horn rim xxxxxxx, Hub xxxxxxx, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.

Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.

Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.

 

Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;

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Summary, and some interesting facts learned;

 

Steering wheels,

  • 64-65 Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief and Laurentian use the same horn rim and horn cap assembly. Just different medallions
  • 64-65 Base model steering wheels share no part numbers regardless of the same horn ring. Same style...different colour tones?
  • 64 Impala/Parisienne use the same horn rim and horn cap assembly, different medallions.
  • CP's use the same signal lever 59-66 including the 63-66 tilt column. 63-66 Non tilt use a different lever

 

 

 

Steering Columns,

  • 1963 was the first year tilt was offered in a Canadian Pontiac
  • A 65-66 USA Pontiac tilt Column is proven to fit in a 66 CP
  • 1967 was the first year for federally mandated collapsible columns. By 68 all manufactures had to have it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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WOW WOW WOW

Super idea Mark and a great start with the for at that you have created I have a photo of my 67 Impala steering wheel.  STEERING WHEEL.jpg

I have the column  that I took out stored in my storage unit.  I will get that out and do some photos and measurements. 

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Great idea Mark, it's often been the topic of discussion.

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One thing I know for sure, the 65 US model (Catalina) tilt fit right into the black 66 Grande Parisienne I sold to Tom in Edmonton a few years back. I've heard they don't fit but it bolted in. I documented that in a thread somewhere. I will try to look for it tonight. The thread may have info in it that you want to include in your post.

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I remember that one. You had to modify the jacket a little?



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Why did you change your column Cliff? A measure on the non tilt 67 would be great.



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Wanted to spend some more money. ha ha There was a squeaking noise in the original column and the solution was an aftermarket tilt.

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I remember that one. You had to modify the jacket a little?




Not much to it, pretty simple. Anyone could do it with even less than backyard mechanics skills I would say.

Feel free to yank any info you want out of this and post it.

https://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t55691726/65-66-grand-prix-usa-tilt-into-66-grande-parisienne/

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Hey Mark, from where to where are the measurements to be taken?

I'll have better pictures of a non-tilt that is out of a car that I will measure and take pictures of later.

 

'64 Parisienne automatic non-tilt:

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'64 Parisienne 3 speed standard tilt:

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Thanks Darryl, 

Great shots, showing off that 4 speed eh!

 

I'd think on the 64, the measurement would be from the lower shaft end (at the coupling) to the steering wheel shaft end.

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

One thing I know for sure, the 65 US model (Catalina) tilt fit right into the black 66 Grande Parisienne I sold to Tom in Edmonton a few years back. I've heard they don't fit but it bolted in. I documented that in a thread somewhere. I will try to look for it tonight. The thread may have info in it that you want to include in your post.

A similar situation: I installed a tilt from a 65 Grand Prix in mine, also bolted in - no issues.



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Here's the measurement of the '64 Canadian Pontiac automatic and 3 speed standard steering columns from the bottom of the steering wheel hub onward (both are identical).

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hi everyone it is Dave from lethbridge i am looking for a steering wheel for a 69 pont parisienne a black one

please let me know



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Well Mark. here it is time for the clocks to fall back and I still havent gotten those measurements. 

I will be at the unit tomorrow and snap a few pictures of the 67 column that was automatic 

You can take it with you next trip. 



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Some pics   67 Impala Steering Column. Automatic

Just a core.... removed due to a squeaking noise in column.   Replaced with an uknown aftermarket kit.

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