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I can't get it up !


Hi everyone,

No doubt, I have not used my car much in the past two years,

8 weeks ago, I had the car out and put the top down and left it down.

Today, I went for a quick trip and when I got home, I decided to pop the top back up.

She moved a little but did just not have the lift.

So far I found this,

https://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t37138241/convertible-top-pump-fluid/

Looks like I have to remove the back seat to check this out.

I will keep searching the forum.

Any other links or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance !



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Part of my training in my current job is the saying,

" The simplest answer is usually the right one "

I took the plug off the switch and tested it.

No power up but power down !

I will order a new switch, once I find a good place to order.

Impala ?

Bonneville ?

In the mean time,

I wired up a power window switch off a 1988 cougar,

I needed a high amp rocker switch and I have a few of those laying around.

Roof works like new !

The way the original roof motor was plugged in to an accessory port, had me wondering, could this power roof be an add on ?

Or were all Parisiennes verts power roofs ?

My brother's 1969 Malibu is manual. 

 



-- Edited by ABC123 on Sunday 21st of July 2019 03:51:51 PM

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Is there no way to take the switch apart? Not much to lose if it doesn't work now. Maybe try spraying some contact cleaner in it? It could be just corroded or dirty contacts?

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I was going to comment on the title but I thought better of it.  Family site and all.

 

The big car convertibles (Parisiennes, Impalas) have come with power tops since, what, the 1940s as standard. Chevelles on the other hand didn't come with the power top standard until 1971.  U.S. Chevelle figures show power top installation rates steadily climbing from 41% in 1964 to 88% in 1970. I believe the power tops had a higher installation rate in Canada surprisingly.



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4SPEED427 wrote:

Is there no way to take the switch apart? Not much to lose if it doesn't work now. Maybe try spraying some contact cleaner in it? It could be just corroded or dirty contacts?


 Yes! Please try to take it apart and clean it. I have done several with excellent results. Reproductions, that have a different chrome bezel than stock, cost $70 USD.



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The switch is unique to 1969 / 1970 Pontiac's. The same switch may be used in other than B body cars, but there may be a difference in the lengths of the wires.

As Robert says, the reproductions look quite different, so try cleaning yours. I've never had one apart, but I've seen them busted apart.

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I also have problems with my 69 switch also,some days works great,show someone how the top works and sure as heck the switch has other plans..haha

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The 69-70 switch was used on all 69-70 Pontiac convertibles in both American and canadian models. The repro looks lousy and both the repro and the factory switch are failure prone. I'd yank it out and look it over for an obvious physical failure. Usually the contacts are burned, a bit of fine emery sanding can do the trick. You can open them up by gently bending back the pot metal crimps and if you break the crimps its no biggie because you can just strike new crimps once you've put it back together. The switch to dash retainer can be a royal pain to remove , you usually end up having to break it but at least the B cars are more accessible compared to the A's. When I put the switch back I don't put a retainer, I just lay a bit of electrical tape around the outside of the switch snug up against the back of the flange, it holds it snug but you can push the switch out effortlessly from behind if you ever need to.

These switches were failure prone because GM cheaped out and didn't use a relay so the full amperage to the top motor goes through the switch. An easy mod is to hide a relay somewhere and run the switch out line to the relay instead of the motor. It will last forever that way. A power window relay works perfect.



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North, I love this Idea !

Thanks, everyone.

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