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Delco electronic ignition conversion kit


https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-d3968a

Anyone ever heard of these, or had one? Kind of embarrassing who spanned 40 years in GM parts to admit he's never heard of these, but I've never heard of these. 

I was piddling around on the AC Delco site to see what all they had listed for my car and this popped up.

https://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/acesCat.php?



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Carl... Never seen or heard of this unit. It's hard to figure out the parts.....when you look at the picture

BUT,.... the Delco link is great. I've looked for a one for a long time. This one is great....

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Yes, when I was posting that link I was thinking it might also help with other stuff as well.

I did more digging on that conversion kit and it's just a Standard Motor Products kit that Delco puts in their box and charges a lot more for!

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4SPEED427 wrote:

Yes, when I was posting that link I was thinking it might also help with other stuff as well.

I did more digging on that conversion kit and it's just a Standard Motor Products kit that Delco puts in their box and charges a lot more for!


 I can't believe anyone would charge more than Standard these days!!!!  Not even GM.....

Where did you find the info that it was from Standard?   They sure kept it secret, any instructions or diagrams?



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I'm quite sure I'm safe in saying this is the identical unit.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324849220714?epid=210406087&hash=item4ba285bc6a:g:fa4AAOSwIr1hduMR



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I was interested in installing the Pertronix unit in my car instead of HEI. But I talked to a few guys who said to stay with the HEI.

I never looked to see what the Pertronix setup looked like, but when you open up the two units side by side, sure looks like the Pert unit..

 

 

AND as I said about Standards mark up, if they are using Pert unit, that would go hand in hand with what I said about Standard "price gouging"



-- Edited by LT1Caddy on Monday 15th of August 2022 09:21:57 AM

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I looked at the link, and my gut was that someone was selling this as a GM kit - but ti's interesting to read that GM is actually selling these.

I may have voiced my opinion here before, so at the risk of repeating myself;

I had contemplated going this way decades ago when they first came out;
There was one of the kits that had a built in adjustable(?) rev limiter that I really liked the idea of having;
But then practical experience of electronic vs mechanical (eg: points) ignition set in when I had a magnetic pickup coil go bad on an HEI that I was running in the 1973 Formula that I owned for a spell;
It completely came out of no where, completely disabled the car, and absolutely required a tow to a safe spot to pull the distributor (after the diagnosis was done).

Points on the other hand, being mechanical in nature will never just "poof!" and die - they will slowly start to run less well;
and that right there is the cusp of it;
Electronic ignitions were developed and installed with the intent of less maintenance required than a points ignition.

If points go bad, all you need is a flat head screw driver, a spare set of points, and you WILL be back on the road again.

And to the few who tout that you get hotter spark, and more power from electronic ignitions;
Baloney.
Yes, it is in fact true, but in real world side by side testing, you would never feel the difference.

And points, if checked on once in a while, will keep working for MUCH longer than most people realize.

I no longer plan to run any kind of electronic conversion.
(and there are some pretty cool ones - like the small body HEI conversions!)

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Had Pertronics since 2002, its never left me at the side of the road.

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I agree with Unruhjonny, points are more dependable in that they will not stick you on the side of the road, they talk to you. HEI or pertronix work great but fail with zero warning. That being said as long as you keep a spare HEI module in the glovebox or a spare pertronix kit you are golden. But there is nothing wrong with points on a street car and it's what they were built to run with, why spend money for nothing.

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great GM site,as far as a conversion kit its ok for peeps with limited
knowledge on the old points.When i get my 348 ready for my 62 impala
im going with points but with the addition of a MSD blaster coil.in the trunk
will be a dwell meter/tach,spare points .the allen tool to adjust,etc....my HEI
already let me down and had to get towed home.[the pickup sensor wire had
an open wire]you can't fix that on the side of the road.....Bob

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Interesting discussion, there seems to be no middle ground with Pertronix type units, folks either seem to love em or hate them, no inbetween. Sorta like Cilantro lol .
I had Pertronix in my Olds Cutlass S years ago and it definitely ran better the instant I put it in (Pertronix II with matching coil) but I get the concern about them just going leaving you stranded.

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/\ like Carlo pointed out;
When a magnetic pickup issue happens, there is no roadside fix;
The distributor needs to be removed, and torn down.
I believe that these conversions use some sort of reluctor gear that attaches under the rotor - and they work with the "kit" to get the pulse - again, something that I'd wager you could not fix on the side of the road.

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