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RE: 1969 2+2 427 4 Speed


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What exactly do they do being so thin? Stop the spring from making a grating sound?

The ones on my 67 were worn through, so I just ran a section of hose onto the top loop.


I presume they just stop any squeaks of metal of the spring on metal of the chassis.   The ones on the chassis I put under the 454 Parisienne were shot, and I found an NOS pair.

To install, I just taped them on top of the spring, put a piece of tape on the side of the spring that needs to face out, and lifted the lower control arms.



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seventy2plus2 wrote:
cdnpont wrote:

What exactly do they do being so thin? Stop the spring from making a grating sound?

The ones on my 67 were worn through, so I just ran a section of hose onto the top loop.


I presume they just stop any squeaks of metal of the spring on metal of the chassis.   The ones on the chassis I put under the 454 Parisienne were shot, and I found an NOS pair.

To install, I just taped them on top of the spring, put a piece of tape on the side of the spring that needs to face out, and lifted the lower control arms.


Hey Clint,

I would be very interested if you want to put those spacers to a very good cause.

The Ontario ones I spoke about, are too weathered to use.



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Dropped the Rochester off at Bill's today.

He immediately went for the numbers to confirm it is a 1969 4 speed Carb.

Looks like it's had a rebuild by someone who knew what they were doing.

However, I still want him to tear it apart and redo it his way.

I also took the M-20

March 1969 build, great !

He popped it apart and found more wear than I was hoping for.

Lots of rounded off teeth with some missing.

She needs to come apart and be redone.

Not what I was expecting but worth every cent to have one of the top Muncie guys have this transmission perfect, before I put it in the car.

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Seeing that M20 sure brings back good memories for me Randy. It was one of the most satisfying mechanical things I've even done. So interesting to get into, and to learn all I could about them.

Great that it's in good hands. Smart move.

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Mark, that picture scares me biggrin

So many parts !

Beyond my abilities.

You must have a lot of patience to get that done.

You should be proud of your skills ! 

 



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One you see the elegance of design in these, they become super simple. 

Such a clever invention.



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PM sent re rear spring insulators.

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The Carb came back today !

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Thanks to Howard for finding the correct one.

And I actually had some of the missing parts myself.

Don't throw that stuff away because you never know biggrin

 

 

 

 



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Nothing like a fresh pro rebuilt QJet!



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I was really trying to avoid this,

Trunk not worth saving blankstare

Repro Impala groves are not the same as original Pontiac lines.

Howard provided the outers and the center part arrived today.

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its coming along nicely cant wait for more up dates

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Initial welding on the trunk is done, waiting on the floor.

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Pictures were taken of the original steel under my convertible to recreate the drop-down lip seams behind the wheels

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Sometimes I wonder if it would have been easier just to weld a roof on to my other car and drop in the 427 biggrin

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shes going to look so good done

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Looking good! Quality work.



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To avoid confusion,

This is the 2020 pick of my convertible in the same body shop.

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I'm driving the body guy crazy with these old picks.

Note the double wheel lip.

Yes,

He's recreating the 1/4 panel exactly to original specks.

 



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I decided to have morning coffee with my body shop team today.

Skim coat done on quarter panels, sorry, no pics.

Trunk is done but the floor saga continued.

The driver's side came in two weeks ago but, the passenger side is still on back order.

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This car is on a hoist in a small shop and needs to keep progressing.

Other booked projects are starting to roll in.

They called the supplier and he admitted that he could not estimate the timing of the delivery.

I called Summit as they showed "5 in stock" however, the guy on the phone stated "May 1st" delivery confuse

Dan grabbed his old books and sure enough,

in the Back of the Golden Leaf catalog was the Impala section.

Golden Leaf Automotive

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In stock, in Woodbridge, Ontario.

Well, I could sit in that chair whine about the shipping cost or I can go to Woodbridge biggrin

401 was closed in Cambridge but that did not stop a Bus Dispatcher.

Called my counterpart at work and he gave me the best route around the mess. 

I knew the backup way well as I have sent lots of buses that way over the years.

First time I ever drove it wink

About 3 hours later, the body shop had a complete set of floor panels.

Told my body guy, "I'll leave you alone now" 

He used other words and said thanks in his own way.



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Is this the same fellow who did your convertible? I don't recall ever seeing that guy crack a smile when I lived in Ingersoll. hmm smile

However I find the crankiest techs seemed to be the best at their craft. 






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When you have to deal with some of the people that businesses have to deal with, you may come off a bit gruff too wink

He loves this project and that shows in the work of his partner and him.

 



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Saved by the bell again eh Randy?



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These pans are sold out everywhere.

Another fine member will be getting his pans there today biggrin



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I got there last 2. Thanx Randy 

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Seat frames are back from the interior guy.

The frames are going for sand blasting but the springs are far too rusted out.

They will have to be replaced.

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They are not the originals as the car was built in October 1968

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A member who has a 1968 build, has silver seat buttons on his original seats and not colour coated ones.

You can get the solid silver colour buttons in reproduction form.

Perhaps another mid-year change for these 1969s ???



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Saturday morning coffee with the body shop guys.

The 1/4s are done, all steel with the help of a few trade secrets smile

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To any '69 Pontiac fans, this is the length to which you have to go to save one of these babies unless you are blessed by a rare solid car. Few have the wallet, the talent, the space, the lucky connections, the tolerant spouse. You have to have a vision to drive the project forward. And a nice Endura nose in your stash. Or maybe you just want to get in and drive it!

This project makes me wonder about where and in what condition that gold '69 2+2 427 4-speed from years ago is? Remember from southern Ontario, Selkirk near the shores of Lake Erie IIRC? Barnacled, speckled but untouched since '76.
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