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4SPEED427


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Man, in the past it was easy. Rock Auto or my local parts store. I would order a Luk or a Sachs clutch and no worries. Now neither one of them list a stock replacement clutch for a 66 396/427. Any of you guys buy one lately? If so, what did you buy?



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So far it looks like LUK 04-049 might be the one.

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If I recall, when there was all the discuss about pilot bearings a few years ago, I checked and the LUK clutch you speak of was in stock at Auto Value here in Calgary, and also at Lordco in Calgary.

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In stock at Auto Value's warehouse (Central Auto Parts) in Calgary.

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Interesting. Our local store is an Auto Value. I'll have to give them a call.

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Carl... Which bell house are you using, the 621 or the 444?

Where did you find the Luk part 3 to fit your car? It should be the same for my car too, but looking at Summit it says that part # will not fit...



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Carl... Which bell house are you using, the 621 or the 444?

Where did you find the Luk part 3 to fit your car? It should be the same for my car too, but looking at Summit it says that part # will not fit...



-- Edited by LT1Caddy on Wednesday 20th of September 2023 08:47:48 PM

  I have a 464697 bellhousing.  I'm not sure what a LUK Part 3 is?



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Carl... Which bell house are you using, the 621 or the 444?

Where did you find the Luk part 3 to fit your car? It should be the same for my car too, but looking at Summit it says that part # will not fit...



-- Edited by LT1Caddy on Wednesday 20th of September 2023 08:47:48 PM

  I have a 464697 bellhousing.  I'm not sure what a LUK Part 3 is?

 TYPO......part#



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Ah, gotcha. I'm going to poke around online and see if I can find a LUK listing I trust.


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Summit says it won't fit a Poncho or a Chev?!?

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I just checked back and in 2012 I did a 4 speed conversion in the 66 Grande Parisienne that I ended up selling to Tom in Edmonton. As far as I know he still has that same clutch in it, at least when I saw him and the car 2 weeks ago he never mentioned having had any clutch issues. 

On that car I installed LUK 04-049 clutch kit and it fit perfectly so I guess I'll be doing that again on this one. I think that's what I put in my Strato Chief too but I'll have to check back to be sure.



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Ok... I'll take your word for it. I checked it online in several sites and they said the same. Summit, doesn't usually screw up. If you used that # before that's good enough for me.
Now do you need the "long" pivot ball with that bell house?

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These 2 threads should pretty much cover all the fine details for the swap, including the pivot ball.

65 B Body 4 speed conversion post. - Canadian Poncho (activeboard.com)

'65-'70 AUTOMATIC TO MANUAL TRANS CONVERSION - Canadian Poncho (activeboard.com)



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Carl, were you able to attain the proper LUK part # for a 11" clutch kit?  Is it the 04-049 that you speculated last night?



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I just checked back and in 2012 I did a 4 speed conversion in the 66 Grande Parisienne that I ended up selling to Tom in Edmonton. As far as I know he still has that same clutch in it, at least when I saw him and the car 2 weeks ago he never mentioned having had any clutch issues. 

On that car I installed LUK 04-049 clutch kit and it fit perfectly so I guess I'll be doing that again on this one. I think that's what I put in my Strato Chief too but I'll have to check back to be sure.

 This one worked fine in 2012 so it's gotta be right. 



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Carl... I was just giving you a "heads up" on the fork pivot ball. In case you didn't know or forgot....LOL

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Yes, 04-049 is 11".

Guess I need to buy another one!

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